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To: ohioWfan
"Incredible twists of rational thought went into that post, CG, to allow you to think that man-made science reflects God's truth more than His revealed word."

First you have to demonstrate your interpretation IS his revealed Word. You take it on faith (no evidence) and expect that to impress everybody. If I hadn't read it again, I wouldn't believe someone could think such a weak argument was a checkmate. Mystical subjectivism as an arguing point! And we're supposed to be impressed!

Just because you want to ignore the World doesn't mean the rest of us want to, or should be made to.

"I believe that objective truth should be taught in science class, and not propaganda."

Good. That counts ID out.

"That means that when legitimate scientific research is presented that supports ID, it should be openly discussed in science classes so that students aren't given only one side of a two sided discussion."

When that day happens, I agree. It hasn't happened yet.

"Now.........as much fun as it's been, I no longer wish to debate with an intellectual Houdini such as yourself, so I'm leaving this thread."

Well, if you can't handle the material, I certainly understand. It requires objective thinking, not appeals to feelings and emotion. Nobody faults you for backing away.

Have a great night!

Please don't ping me again on this thread. I won't ping you back.
270 posted on 09/25/2005 4:16:12 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
That's cute. You say outrageous things and then tell me not to ping you back. Really cute.

Let me just remind other readers of this post of yours....

"Romans 12:2 - Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will."

This is a call for subjective mysticism over objective evidence. Only when you throw off this world (reality) for some inner subjective reality can you discover God's will. It is a call for the death of reason.

What I wrote........the passage from Romans in quotes.........is a direct quote from Scripture with no interpretation of mine in it. Just the words of the Apostle Paul, inspired by God.

You, in response, called God's word "a call for subjective mysticism over objective evidence," and the "death of reason."

And after you completely dismissed the direct quote (among others), you claim to know what 'insults' God.

Intellectual Houdini-ism. May I call you Harry? Can you show me your straightjacket and locks sometime? :)

(I know that you're not reading this, but I can imagine the irrational arguments and insults you would be mounting if you were.....probably a good thing that you're not going to reply. Wouldn't want you to further embarrass yourself......)

272 posted on 09/25/2005 4:27:06 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Ohiofan said:

"That's cute. You say outrageous things and then tell me not to ping you back. Really cute."

Just following your lead. You dropped crap and ran. I was just returning the favor.

"What I wrote........the passage from Romans in quotes.........is a direct quote from Scripture with no interpretation of mine in it. Just the words of the Apostle Paul, inspired by God."

There is no evidence it was inspired by God, it is your assumption. That is the whole point, you make assumptions based on faith and treat them as facts not to be disputed. You expect that to count in a scientific discussion.

" You, in response, called God's word "a call for subjective mysticism over objective evidence," and the "death of reason."

No, I called the quote from the Bible (written by men) a call for subjective mysticism and the death of reason. Last time I checked Paul wasn't God.

You want us to ignore the physical world (the word of God) whenever it contradicts your interpretation of your book. That is the death of reason and a direct attack on Man's mind.

"And after you completely dismissed the direct quote (among others), you claim to know what 'insults' God."

Denying His creation insults Him.

"Intellectual Houdini-ism. May I call you Harry? Can you show me your straightjacket and locks sometime? :)"

I wouldn't make jokes about straitjackets with the wacky arguments you have been using.

"(I know that you're not reading this, but I can imagine the irrational arguments and insults you would be mounting if you were."

Projection isn't working well for you. You have already demonstrated your ability to imagine all sorts of irrational arguments.

BTW, I never said I wouldn't read your post. Or that I wouldn't respond. That reading comprehension thing isn't working for you either. I just said I wouldn't ping YOU.
273 posted on 09/25/2005 4:49:53 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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