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To: ohioWfan
"If evolutionary science were indeed fact, then 150 years after it was first introduced, there wouldn't be a legitimate scientific argument against it, as there is now."

There isn't. There is no legitimate scientific argument against evolution that hasn't been overthrown. The debate is between scientists and people who don't want to do science (creationists).

"Scientific principles that are true, are proven to be true and not questioned 150 years later, even if there is initial resistance to them. Evolution is still questioned because of its dubious origins and unprovable claims."

As I know you have been told this numerous times, no theories in science are ever proved. I take it you either can't read or are intentionally deceptive. Evolution doesn't need to be *proved*, just as The Theory of Relativity doesn't need to be proved (and can't be). All it needs is for the evidence to support it which it does, overwhelmingly. Creationism in all of its forms (YEC, ID) does not have evidence to support it; the evidence that does exist is against it. There is no logical reason to be concerned with theories that have only negative evidence as support. Whatever the merits of ID, it has no place in a science classroom.

"And please, don't confuse faith with 'feelings.' If you know any Scripture, you know that faith is not just a matter of the heart, but a matter of the mind."

Feelings exist in the Mind. Just because something is of the Mind, does not mean it is logical or that it based on evidence. Faith is not evidence; it is belief without evidence. It is subjectivism.

"This is not about feelings, Carolina. This is about thought, and logic, the search for truth, and the understanding that we cannot accept blindly what the voices of this age throw at us."

It is exactly about feelings. There is no mention of logic in any of the quotes you provided. It says to reject the *pattern of this world* for subjective feelings. There IS mention of illogic though,

"Romans 12:2 - Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will."

This is a call for subjective mysticism over objective evidence. Only when you throw off this world (reality) for some inner subjective reality can you discover God's will. It is a call for the death of reason.
254 posted on 09/25/2005 12:15:22 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
You are not rejecting me, sir. You are rejecting the God who created you, and His word.

He is the God of ultimate, eternal Reason, and Truth.

And ironically, we are all dependent on Him for our (limited) ability to reason. The only understanding we have of His universe is His gift to us, and yet some of us choose to use that gift to reject Him with.

Be careful of arrogance that depends on human frailty and flawed reasoning as its source, while denying a Holy, Sovereign, Omniscient and Just God.

257 posted on 09/25/2005 1:07:42 PM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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