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Everything inflammatory associated with ABLE DANGER is based on hearsay. The officers involved admit so. While the Pentagon's response smacks of a cover-up, the sensationalist claims of LTC Shafer, et al, are way-too-late to make a difference. If what Shafer says is true why wasn't he jumping up and down on September 12, 2001. All of a sudden four years later he's making a beef... curiously about the same time he is under administrative action by his DOD superiors.

The ABLE DANGER project was flawed from the get-go and everyone who saw the results saw that and that is why it was shelved and/or destroyed. Funny thing is that NO information from the FBI or CIA - - the two agencies responsible for collection of foreign intelligence against terrorists - - was included in ABLE DANGER. Duh!


10 posted on 09/24/2005 5:34:24 AM PDT by Aggie Dad
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To: Aggie Dad

That's a very authoritative "no problem" statement. Why wasn't A-D even mentioned in the 9/11 Commission report? Why did staffers bury it? Why has there been an apparent effort to downplay it without airing the info?

Do you think that Jamie Gorelick was an able public servant, and correct in her erection and enforcement of "the wall?" While that's a bit tangential to this issue, your answer on that might help me decide whether to pay any attention to your comments on this.


13 posted on 09/24/2005 6:05:01 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: Aggie Dad; plenipotentiary; savedbygrace; Pearls Before Swine; popdonnelly; muawiyah; gaspar; ...

Everything inflammatory associated with ABLE DANGER is based on hearsay.

Funny...That's what they said about the ChinaGate Scandal that fell from sight about the same time that Monica last serviced Bill Clinton

Curt Weldon is no stranger to charts:

CHINESE ESPIONAGE AND NATIONAL SECURITY
(from the Congressional Record, Proceedings of the U.S. House of Representatives)                                       Monday, June 7, 1999

 
It was this government and this administration that failed the American people, and the American people need to see the factual information.

With that in mind, Mr. Speaker, the following two charts are now available on my web site nationally:

The first chart, Mr. Speaker, for the first time ever gives the complete linkage between those agencies and entities of the Peoples Liberation Army and the Central Military Commission of the PLA which are all indicated by the red boxes, and you cannot read them, our colleagues cannot read them, but you can get this off of our web site, and I have offered to give copies of this chart in a smaller form to
every Member of Congress regardless of party.

 
Curt Weldon is no stranger to charts:
 
The China Connection
http://web.archive.org/web/20000819124046/www.house.gov/curtweldon/chinaconnect.pdf
Sources and References for Chart 1 (05/27/99)
 
Liberalized / Decontrolled Technologies To Peoples Republic of China
http://web.archive.org/web/20000819124114/www.house.gov/curtweldon/timeline.pdf
 
 
What the Charts Show

The two charts together reveal, among other things:

  • A systematic, well planned effort by the Chinese military at the highest levels to target and acquire technology for military modernization.
  • That the targeting effort and financing to acquire the technology and buy influence at the highest levels of US Government were planned and implemented by Chinese military Intelligence through the second department under the General Staff Department (GSD).
  • That the Chinese military acquired many of the technologies over the past seven years,   although many of them had been targeted for acquisition for more than a quarter century.
  • That the Chinese military set up a series of front companies and cut-outs to mask its technology targeting efforts and to launder money to hide its origin.  Chinese military intelligence even resorted to the use of companies and bank accounts of the infamous Macau and Hong Kong Chinese Triad for this purpose.
  • That even after the US Government learned of the diversion of the W-88 nuclear warhead design in late 1995 into 1996, the Clinton Administration continued to liberalize export controls on such sensitive technologies as computers, encryption, machine tools, telecommunications, stealth technologies, space launch technologies, satellites, the array of hot section technologies to improve the performance and life of Jet engines, and high temperature furnaces essential for the production of components for missiles and nuclear weapons.

  • That the Clinton-Gore Administration certified China in January 1998 to receive nuclear technology for being in compliance with non-proliferation regimes, even though there was strong evidence that the Chinese government was continuing its proliferation activities with Iran, North Korea, Syria, Pakistan, and Libya.  Such proliferation activities, which were contrary to U.S.-Chinese understandings, continue unabated to this day.
  • That the cumulative impact of these targeted technologies now permit China to:

    • Develop reliable Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles with insights into MIRVing that ICBM force.
    • Miniaturize nuclear warheads.
    • Implement a command and control structure for its growing ICBM force.
    • Develop an integrated command, control, communications, computer and intelligence encrypted network to enable better military command and control over vast areas, even beyond China itself.
    • Improve power projection for its surface fleets, submarines, and long-range cruise missiles capable of hitting not only Taiwan, but also Japan from mainland China.
    • Produce more proficient fighter and bomber aircraft capable of greater distances and speeds.
  • That the administration as early as 1994 systematically dismantled its system of monitoring the influx of Chinese and other foreign nationals visiting U.S. high technology companies, including our nuclear weapons labs.  As a result, there are many tens of thousands of Chinese in the United States and we don't know where they are or what they are doing.

    • In fact, it wasn't until this year just prior to public revelations of alleged Chinese espionage in our nation's nuclear weapons labs that the Energy Department decided to seek export licenses from the Commerce Department for foreign national visits.  Yet, the requirement had always been law.  And where was the Commerce Department in not forcing the issue with the Energy Department?
  • The notion that Chinese and other foreign nationals would be allowed access to information or to the facilities where U.S. nuclear weapons were developed is unconscionable.  It is seriously doubtful that the Chinese labs would allow U.S. scientists into their nuclear weapons labs.

Cox Report Details Damage to U.S. National Security

By Congressman Curt WeldonThe COX REPORT: http://tinyurl.com/c3bl7


16 posted on 09/24/2005 6:49:50 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Aggie Dad
You are way off. You do not understand what heasay is.

Sworn testimony of a direct witness to an event is NOT hearsay. Such testimony to an event directly witnessed, sworn or not, is not hearsay.

Go educate yourself -- or bear the label of propagandist.

32 posted on 09/24/2005 5:04:26 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Aggie Dad

"The ABLE DANGER project was flawed from the get-go and everyone who saw the results saw that and that is why it was shelved and/or destroyed."

You look very much like a newcomer, sent here to defend somebody.

Gen. Schoomaker liked AD.

Signup date Sept. 21, 2005. ???????


36 posted on 09/24/2005 6:13:01 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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