> Are you accepting them as phenomena?
I accept that some people seem to believe that they exist. But the convincing, objective evidence is wholly lacking.
> You dismissed them as supernatural without any such exploration.
Well, except for the past several hundred years worth...
> Calling a phenomena supernatural is just a way of saying I don't want to look at it, but I want to shut down the discussion anyway.
You're describign the ID/Creationism camp. "God did it, end of discussion."
> Are you accepting them as phenomena?
I accept that some people seem to believe that they exist. But the convincing, objective evidence is wholly lacking.<<<<
So you do not accept they are phenomena. Make a decision, don't waffle. You are arguing people's beliefs. If they are not a phenomena, science is an inappropriate tool.
> You dismissed them as supernatural without any such exploration.
Well, except for the past several hundred years worth...<<<<
Your words dismissed them as beliefs. If someone does actually try to examine them as phenomena, they are usually labelled crackpots. And some clearly are.
> Calling a phenomena supernatural is just a way of saying I don't want to look at it, but I want to shut down the discussion anyway.
You're describign the ID/Creationism camp. "God did it, end of discussion."<<<<
And yours says "God does not exist and has no impact in the world as a phenomenon."
You dismissed out of hand elves and fairies. But they generated billion dollars of activity with only the LOTR and HP. People have a strong need for these things.
But I don't believe they are phenomena.
Do you?
DK