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To: Argus

You are absolutely right. Many of their Hegleian type arguments simply give them an intellectual smokescreen with which to hide behind the fact that to them, leftist judges are their 21st century version of the "vanguard of the proletariet" - their means of imposing their will without any elections.


6 posted on 09/22/2005 6:36:58 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

I wouldn't call the arguments Hegelian as a pejorative. They're just wrong. The Hegelian dialectic can be sturdily rational if used properly.


8 posted on 09/22/2005 6:39:53 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Wuli; Argus

You are absolutely right. Many of their Hegleian type arguments simply give them an intellectual smokescreen with which to hide behind the fact that to them, leftist judges are their 21st century version of the "vanguard of the proletariet" - their means of imposing their will without any elections.




Both the "left wing" and the "right wing" of Hegelians end up worshipping the state as the apotheosis of divine will acting in history. A good read on the rise, and decline, of the nation-state as an instrument of human social organization may be found in:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/052165629X/qid=1127453470/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-7485100-5053731?v=glance&s=books

The Rise and Decline of the State (Paperback)
by Martin van Creveld

Editorial Reviews
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' ... a very readable account, [van Creveld] paints a most persuasive picture of the decline of the state and the transfer of its powers to a host of substitute guardians. It is an intellectually exciting and highly recommended book.' Law Society Journal

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The state, which since the middle of the seventeenth century has been the most important and most characteristic of all modern institutions, is in decline. From Western Europe to Africa, many existing states are either combining into larger communities or falling apart. Many of their functions are being taken over by a variety of organizations which, whatever their precise nature, are not states. In this unique volume Martin van Creveld traces the story of the state from its beginnings to the present. Starting with the simplest political organizations that ever existed, he guides the reader through the origins of the state, its development, its apotheosis during the two World Wars, and its spread from its original home in Western Europe to cover the globe. In doing so, he provides a fascinating history of government from its origins to the present day.--This text refers to the Digital edition.

Book Description
This unique volume traces the history of the state from its beginnings to the present day.

Historical Pessimism Absent Recommendations for Change, November 12, 2001
Reviewer: Robert D. Steele (Oakton, VA United States)

Anything Martin van Crevald writes is a five, and this book, although over-priced (...), is as as good as history can get. His notes are world-class, including a highly relevant note in the final chapter, to wit, that according to Soviet General Lebed's 1997 public statement that, "out of 100 suitcase-sized nuclear bombs manufactured for the Soviet Union's special forces, two-thirds could no longer be accounted for."

To begin with, Van Crevald damns the state for its consistent increase of taxes and its decrease in public services. The state has become, in a word, incompetent and archaic--its grossly over-funded militaries are increasingly helpless in the face of covert and guerrilla violence, at the same time that states are spending more and more on police forces and less and less on a rapidly growing politically deprived disenfranchised underclass.

He ends, as a historical purist, without making recommendations for change. Indeed, he quotes Mao Tse Tung, "The sun will keep rising, trees with keep growing, and women will keep having children."

In many ways Van Crevald's book serves as a capstone to the fifty or so books I have reviewed in the past year, most of them about strategy, threat, intelligence, and the so-called revolution in military affairs, for what I take from this work is that the state does have an extremely important role to play in assuring the common security and prosperity of the people, and we abandon the state at our own peril.

Every nation, but especially the most prosperous nations that have allowed virtually out of control immigration and set no real standards for citizenship, must very carefully examine its policies and premises, both with regard to what constitutes citizenship and loyalty, and what services it must offer to preserve and protect the commonwealth.

I am told that the FBI was prevented from searching the homes of several of the suspects in the weeks prior to the 11 September attacks, because we have granted to our visitors--illegal as well as legal--all those rights that might better be reserved for proven citizens. Van Crevald's work is not, as some might take it, the death knell for the state, but rather the bath of cold water for the statesmen--and for those citizens who care to instruct their politicians on our demand for renewed focus on resurrecting the connection between citizenship, taxation, representation, and security.

Brilliant, December 25, 2000
Reviewer: Steve Jackson "stevejackson100atyahoocom" (New England)

Every once in a while you come across a book that goes beyond being interesting or thought-provoking, but is a veritable five lane intellectual super-highway. Martin van Creveld's The Rise and Decline of the State is such a book.

Prof. van Creveld's work revolves around this point: prior to the seventeenth century (with some exceptions) rule was seen as personal. The monarch personally ruled over a given region and the people owed him their loyalty. The state was not the abstract entity that it was to become. The change from personal to abstract rule brought with it profound consequences in virtually all aspects of life.

Along the path from personal to abstract rule, many thinkers and rulers played a role, but Hobbes was decisive. [p. 179.] Also important were Locke, Montesquieu and Rousseau.

Of course, personal rule didn't guarantee that you would live in a libertarian paradise. Nonetheless, personal rule carried with it certain obligations: the sovereign (generally as a servant of God) was under the law and his powers were limited. The modern, bureaucratic state has almost unlimited powers. Even worse, the total state often leads to total war. In earlier times, wars between "states" were really quarrels between ruling houses and the common man could escape involvement. Not so with the modern state: you are a citizen of the state and owe it your exclusive allegiance. [p. 185.]

There is a lot more a reviewer could comment on in this book. Prof. van Creveld has all sorts of interesting things to say about the rise of the state and changes in crime, education, war, and the economy.

I do have one quarrel with the book. On page 178, Prof. van Creveld says that Christianity teaches that God "is believed to possess no fewer than three different bodies." Since Prof. van Creveld is not (so far as I can tell) a Mormon, I'm at a loss to see how he came up with that idea.


20 posted on 09/22/2005 10:40:56 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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