[js1138]

The net effect of all this is that mainstream science has tightened up its arguments, shed a bunch of flabby prose, and is a lot leaner and stronger.

I've seen this happen over the last couple of years on FR. People who accepted evolution passively have had to learn the arguments in some detail.

[Right Wing Professor]

The net effect of all this is that mainstream science has tightened up its arguments, shed a bunch of flabby prose, and is a lot leaner and stronger.

Lance Armstrong says the testicular cancer made him tougher. Still, I bet he'd prefer not to have had it. :-)

[RadioAstronomer]

People who accepted evolution passively have had to learn the arguments in some detail.

Like me. :-)

My background is astronomy and rocket science.