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To: SALChamps03

"Aaron never cheated"

Don't know if that's true or not, but players in the 60's and 70's weren't exactly choir-boys.

Amphetamine use was rampant, and it's naive to think that players didn't use anything and everything to get an edge.

And, if you look at which player position is testing positive for steroids in MLB, it's been mostly Pitchers.

So does their use of Steroids "cancel out" the edge Bonds got by allegedly using steroids?

And as pointed out earlier, Bonds put up some amazing numbers in the WS

The reason Bonds dislikes the media (as do many of us) is the way they treated his Dad, former Major Leaguer Bobby Bonds, who they crowned "The next Willie Mays"

When Bobby Bonds couldn't live up to the media's artificially high expectations, they roasted him in the press.

Bonds see's the media for what they are, and that is why he's not a media friendly ballplayer.


17 posted on 09/21/2005 8:32:08 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

Dude, see Bonds for what he is.. a very emotional immature person. Listen to the phone messages of him badgering his mistress and then listen to him bitching at the media and you have the same person. There is no question that he is one of the all time greats - pre steroids even. But he is also incredibly childish for a 41 year old man. He needs to be disciplined by a real adult because somehow he managed to miss out on that through his childhood.


20 posted on 09/21/2005 8:35:24 PM PDT by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
So does their use of Steroids "cancel out" the edge Bonds got by allegedly using steroids?

I'd say no. The peak in Bonds's performance starting at the age of 37 is utterly unprecedented in baseball history, and it's hard to believe he could have done this in any way that was "fair" and "even".

23 posted on 09/21/2005 8:44:19 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

OK, let's hear some evidence that Aaron was involved in this.


62 posted on 09/22/2005 2:14:31 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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