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= Then, by your lights, Reagan, that lousy neocon, who eliminated/lowered tax levels, but then raised taxes, shamelessly pulled out of Lebanon, after not keeping out troops safe, was also a RINO and never really left his Dem roots, since he continually praised FDR. Right? ]

Well, Reagan, was such a relief from Cartier.. that he seemed like a repubican.. but he was no Barry Goldwater.. Yes he was a RINO.. but the times were different.. He was looking at a juggernaut of democrats.. but smoooozzed them into further confusion.. I was giddy when Ronnie won..

Looking at Reagan as the touchstone of what republicans should be is a mistake.. Newt should be/a the model.. not Reagan.. Reagan used up the democrats smoozeablity.. handsomely.. but when its over its over.. Anything less than a 2 x 4 is wasted effort now.. Reagan knew what FDR was.. but used him as ropa'adope.. to democrats egos..

"How do you tell a Socialist:- It's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an Anti-Socialist someone who understands Marx and Lenin" -Ronald Reagan

But all in all Reagan bought into some socialism.. like Social Security.. which is pure socialism.. The RINOs of today are not like the RINOs of yesteryear.. Todays RINOs are outright socialists.. not begrudging socialists like in 1980.. So I give Ronnie a pass.. more or less..

Hmmmmmmm...so now, NOW, you're calling Reagan a RINO? That just proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that not only do you NOT understand the meaning of that term, one iota, but that you understand NOTHING whatsoever!

You're making statements about what Reagan thought about FDR, that are palpably ridiculous. You have less than NO idea, whatsoever, what President Reagah thought, nor why he said and/or did what he did.

Barry Goldwater, your iconic template for a "Conservative" , was a loose cannon, NOT a Conservative at all, and as the rest of us know, after losing his presidential run, Goldwater went so off the Conservative mode, that he was virtually indistinguishable from rabid lefties and GREENIES!

For someone as old as you are and who been a member of FR for as long as you have been, your abject lack of knowledge, understanding, and political savvy, is not only glaring, but shocking ! You are incapable of logic, well reasoned thought, and debate. You post obscene, foul mouthed inanities, emotional drivel, factless and revisionist banalities, and quite frankly, how you've managed to not been zotted, is beyond me.

Newtie is your exemplar example of Conservatism? REALLY? Newtie, the adulterer, who was a great backbencher, but who strapped on Clintonista kneepads, sucked up to Slick Willie, REPEATEDLY, caved to X42, whenever Bill told him to "drop and give me some"? The Newt who kept pushing "THE THIRD WAVE" ? THAT NEWT? That's who you say is a better Conservative than Reagan and President Bush the younger?

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You couldn't recognize a Conservative, if twelve of them bit you on the nose, all at the same time, and factual history escapes your ken utterly!