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To: nopardons
Words have set meanings. "Invasion" meant something quite different, back when the Constitution was written, than the way in which you are attempting to use it.

No offense, but that is exactly the argument that the gun grabbers who want to redefine the 2nd amendment use.

I'm not trying to be difficult but you've been bending over backwards trying to give Bush and other Republicans a pass. I had very high hopes in 1994 that were quickly dashed when Clinton ran roughshod over the newly elected republican congress.

My hopes were rekindled in 2000 when we captured the whitehouse. The Senate was back and forth for a bit, but since 2002, it has been in GOP hands and all we've gotten has been spending bill after spending bill.

I like the president and I think he is a good guy - that doesn't meant that I should look the other way when he starts implementing socialistic policies and calling for and signing into law new entitlements.

To be frank, the GOP senate has been even more of a disappointment. I've given up on them though. If we all just cheerlead then it just reinforces such behavior and if we don't watch it, soon the GOP will treat conservatives the same way that the Democratic party treats blacks - throws them a bone every once in a while while they continue to reflexively vote democrat election after election.

569 posted on 09/22/2005 6:00:03 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta
Offense taken, because you are now into Clintonianly weasel wording and misdirection.

I'm not a "cheerleader", I look reality squarely in the face, know history and politics, understand both, and don't ever expect a fantasy outcome, which is based on my desires. And if only you had carefully listened to Bush the candidate, you would have known what to expect.

No politician and especially no president, is going to gives you more that 60-75% of what you most desire. And when they deliver that, you should count yourself as being lucky and well pleased!

Have I/do I agree 100% with everything that President Bush has said and done thus far in his term of office? HELL NO! But, does that mean that I am willing to go off fringe? Never, ever, no, no, NO!

What you need to understand and take to heart, ASAP, is that there is NOT a majority of Conservatives in this nation. America is turning more Conservative; however, that really isn't quite what you would suppose it to be. A purist Conservative would NOT get elected, should such a candidate even be available; which he/she isn't. No matter how Conservative, the UNAPPEASEABLES would still find something to cavil about.

582 posted on 09/22/2005 6:42:19 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: JeffAtlanta
I like the president and I think he is a good guy - that doesn't meant that I should look the other way when he starts implementing socialistic policies and calling for and signing into law new entitlements.

Liking the President isn't really an issue. His policies are anything but conservative. Most are now very aware of this.

To be frank, the GOP senate has been even more of a disappointment.

Lets be honest. The entire GOP is.

Good posts Jeff. I agree with most everything you said. Unfortunately there are a few here that are swinging at reality, and are losing big.

See you down the threads.

591 posted on 09/22/2005 7:08:01 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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