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To: ohioWfan
[ If Bush is RINO, then by definition, he is NOT a real Republican. That's what the term means, sir. ]

Exactly.. And since most republicans are RINOs.. meaning ex-democrats.. its no wonder that most elected republican federal officials are too(RINOs).. Not all republicans are RINOs just most.. We have the republican government NOW that best represents the general republican constituency>> socialist.. Probably the ditz vote is factored in too.. meaning republican women.. not all but most are socialists..

Thats why reps. like Pence are so rare, there are a few like him, but very rare.. The democrats have brain washed(successfully) most republicans into being being big government malefactors.. because that is what a democrat IS.. a big government drone.. If Bush is not a big government drone.. then he IS stupid.. and manipulated by those that are..

418 posted on 09/22/2005 11:14:52 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
Once again, I will pose the question about the Republican party.

Is Bush less conservative than Nixon? Is Bush less conservative than Ford? Is Bush less conservative than Eisenhower? Is Bush less conservative than (fill in the blank).........Reagan is the only past Republican President who might have been more conservative, and that is clearly debateable depending on the issue.

You keep saying that the Republican party has moved to the left, but that presumption can't be backed up with history.

All I care about are the facts, hosepipe, and your comments aren't backed up with them....

That is an entirely different discussion from whether or not any of us think Bush is as conservative as we would prefer.

419 posted on 09/22/2005 11:23:24 AM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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