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Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part III
NHC - NOAA ^ | 21 September 2005 | NHC - NOAA

Posted on 09/21/2005 4:19:11 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: txdoda
Checkout post 44.......might be easier than a trip to NM

I'll bet the Marriott doesn't take pets, though...

1,461 posted on 09/22/2005 1:31:54 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Howlin


Oh damn is right. It's turning? Or are these POSSIBLE paths?


1,462 posted on 09/22/2005 1:32:47 AM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: dogbyte12

That graph looks like Rita is moving more N.E..towards NO.


1,463 posted on 09/22/2005 1:35:54 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: onyx; Howlin
Oh damn is right. It's turning? Or are these POSSIBLE paths?

I don't know *what* in the heck those are, but they aren't Rita -- several of the paths start down near the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico, which is nowhere *near* where Rita is, has been, or will be tracking.

1,464 posted on 09/22/2005 1:36:59 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: SeaBiscuit
That graph looks like Rita is moving more N.E..towards NO.

See post #1464.

1,465 posted on 09/22/2005 1:37:43 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Howlin
Hour-old Vortex Data Message -

000
URNT12 KNHC 220739
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 22/07:14:30Z
B. 24 deg 48 min N
  087 deg 46 min W
C. 700 mb 2208 m
D. NA  kt
E. NA  deg     nm
F. 225 deg 148 kt
G. 134 deg 013 nm
H.         899 mb
I.   9 C/ 3047 m
J.  31 C/ 3043 m
K.  -3 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C16
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1  nm
P. AF307 1618A RITA         OB 11
MAX FL WIND 165 KT NE QUAD 05:34:00 Z
STADIUM EFFECT VERY VISIBLE IN MOONLIGHT
FREQUENT LIGHTNING WITHIN EYEWALL

Major changes from the previous one with an eye-fix at 12:38 am CDT (1 hour 36 minutes prior):

- This represents a SE-to-NW run (previous was NE-to-SW run)
- Pressure up 1 mb to 899 mb
- Position change of 2 minutes north, 12 minutes west (pretty close to due west; roughly 280 degrees)
- Turbulence mention gone (dunno whether that's a good or bad sign)

1,466 posted on 09/22/2005 1:38:43 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: Ichneumon

Your right, that doesn't look like Rita's position.


1,467 posted on 09/22/2005 1:40:43 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: Ichneumon; NautiNurse
Public Advisory #19 now out -

000
WTNT33 KNHC 220832
TCPAT3
BULLETIN
HURRICANE RITA ADVISORY NUMBER  19
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
4 AM CDT THU SEP 22 2005
 
...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE RITA MOVING
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD ACROSS THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO...

AT 4 AM CDT...0900Z...THE HURRICANE WATCH IS EXTENDED EASTWARD ALONG
THE LOUISIANA COAST TO INTRACOASTAL CITY.  A HURRICANE WATCH IS NOW
IN EFFECT FOR THE GULF OF MEXICO COAST FROM PORT MANSFIELD TEXAS TO
INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA.  A HURRICANE WARNING WILL LIKELY BE
REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF THE HURRICANE WATCH AREA LATER TODAY.
 
AT 4 AM CDT...A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE
SOUTHEASTERN COAST OF LOUISIANA EAST OF MORGAN CITY TO THE MOUTH OF
THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.  A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT
TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE WARNING AREA DURING
THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
 
A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT ON EITHER SIDE OF THE
HURRICANE WATCH AREA... FROM EAST OF CAMERON TO MORGAN CITY
LOUISIANA...AND FROM SOUTH OF PORT MANSFIELD TO BROWNSVILLE TEXAS.
 
A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTHEASTERN COAST
OF MEXICO FROM RIO SAN FERNANDO NORTHWARD TO THE RIO GRANDE.
 
A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE
WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS. A TROPICAL STORM
WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE
WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.
 
INTERESTS IN THE NORTHWESTERN GULF OF MEXICO SHOULD MONITOR THE
PROGRESS OF POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE RITA.
 
FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.
 
AT 4 AM CDT...0900Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE RITA WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 24.9 NORTH...LONGITUDE  88.0 WEST OR ABOUT  515 MILES...
830 KM...SOUTHEAST OF GALVESTON TEXAS AND ABOUT  615 MILES... 990
KM...EAST-SOUTHEAST OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS.
 
RITA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR  9 MPH...15 KM/HR...
AND THIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24
HOURS.
 
REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE
THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 175 MPH...280 KM/HR...WITH
HIGHER GUSTS.  THIS MAKES RITA A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY
FIVE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE.  SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN
INTENSITY ARE LIKELY DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
 
HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO  70 MILES...110 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 185 MILES...295 KM.
 
THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE ESTIMATED FROM REPORTS BY THE
HURRICANE HUNTER IS  897 MB...26.49 INCHES.  THIS MEANS RITA IS THE
THIRD MOST INTENSE HURRICANE IN TERMS OF PRESSURE IN THE ATLANTIC
BASIN.
 
TIDES ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING NEAR NORMAL ALONG THE MISSISSIPPI AND
LOUISIANA COASTS IN THE AREAS AFFECTED BY KATRINA. TIDES IN THOSE
AREAS WILL INCREASE UP TO 3 TO 4 FEET AND BE ACCOMPANIED BY LARGE
WAVES OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS... AND RESIDENTS THERE COULD
EXPERIENCE SOME COASTAL FLOODING.

HEAVY RAINS ASSOCIATED WITH RITA ARE FORECAST TO BEGIN TO AFFECT THE
WESTERN AND CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO COASTAL AREAS THURSDAY NIGHT
INTO FRIDAY. RITA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE TOTAL RAINFALL
ACCUMULATIONS OF 8 TO 12 INCHES WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES FROM THE CENTRAL TEXAS COAST TO SOUTHWESTERN LOUISIANA.
RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE ELSEWHERE ACROSS
SOUTHERN LOUISIANA...INCLUDING THE NEW ORLEANS METROPOLITAN AREA.
AFTER RITA MOVES INLAND...TOTAL RAIN ACCUMULATIONS OF 5 TO 10
INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER EASTERN TEXAS... AND CENTRAL AND
EASTERN OKLAHOMA DURING SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
 
REPEATING THE 4 AM CDT POSITION...24.9 N... 88.0 W.  MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR  9 MPH.  MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...175 MPH.  MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 897 MB.
 
AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 7 AM CDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT
COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 10 AM CDT.
 
FORECASTER BEVEN
 
 
$$

1,468 posted on 09/22/2005 1:41:50 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: dogbyte12

Look, its a corrupt gif, pay no attention to it until they fix it.

Corrupt graphic files can do weird things with the information they display.


1,469 posted on 09/22/2005 1:43:35 AM PDT by Crazieman (6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
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To: steveegg

Back down to 897 - and holding steady at 175 mph. I was expecting a little weakening if the eyewall is in cycle...


1,470 posted on 09/22/2005 1:44:42 AM PDT by dandelion (Location: A Stone's Throw Due East of Waco, (Deliberately Vague Because My Husband Is Paranoid))
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To: dandelion; NautiNurse
Hurricane Rita Discussion Number 19

Statement as of 5:00 am EDT on September 22, 2005

 
if Rita has not peaked in intensity...it looks like it is pretty
close to doing so.  The latest central pressure estimated from
reconnaissance aircraft data is 897 mb...which shows little change
during the past 8 hr.  The maximum flight-level winds so far are
165 kt in the NE eyewall...which is only slightly higher than the
161 kt observed yesterday afternoon.  The aircraft data shows a
increasingly strong outer wind maximum that is likely the start of
a concentric eyewall cycle...and satellite imagery since the end of
the eclipse period shows warming of the convection near the center. 
Based on all of this...the initial intensity remains 150 kt.

Rita has turned a little to the right during the past several hours
and the initial motion is now 285/8.  Rawinsonde data shows a
strong mid-level ridge centered over Texas.  Large-scale models
forecast this ridge to shift eastward into the southeastern states
and the eastern Gulf of Mexico during the next 48 hr.  This should
allow Rita to turn more northward with time.  The track guidance is
now clustered around a landfall between the Sabine River and
Matagorda Texas in 48-60 hr...with a net eastward shift of the
guidance since the last package.  The new forecast track is also
shifted eastward about 30 N mi...calling for landfall near the
Bolivar Peninsula and Galveston Bay.  However...it should be noted
that the new track is along the left or west side of the envelope of
guidance.

The intensity forecast remains somewhat problematic.  First...the
more northerly track will likely keep Rita over The Loop current
longer than previously expected...so the effect of lower ocean heat
content may be somewhat less than previously expected in the first
24 hr or so.  Second...the GFS and ship models forecast significant
shear over Rita after 24 hr...which results in SHIPS calling for
significant weakening.  Shear analyses from CIMSS at the University
of Wisconsin show about 12 kt of southerly shear caused by an
upper-level anticyclone east of Rita...and the large-scale models
suggest this pattern will continue until landfall.  However...the
GFS and SHIPS may be overdoing the shear.  Finally...there will be
at least one and possible more concentric eyewall cycles before
landfall.  The intensity forecast is based on the premise that
shear and reduced outflow will cause a gradual weakening...
especially after Rita moves west of The Loop current in 24-36 hr. 
Superimposed on top of this will be fluctuations caused by
concentric eyewall cycles.  The new intensity forecast is an update
of the previous forecast...calling for slow overall weakening but
not as much as shown by SHIPS.

  
Forecaster Beven

 

 
forecast positions and Max winds

 
initial      22/0900z 24.9n  88.0w   150 kt
 12hr VT     22/1800z 25.3n  89.3w   150 kt
 24hr VT     23/0600z 26.1n  91.1w   145 kt
 36hr VT     23/1800z 27.2n  92.8w   140 kt
 48hr VT     24/0600z 28.8n  94.3w   130 kt
 72hr VT     25/0600z 32.0n  95.5w    65 kt...inland
 96hr VT     26/0600z 34.1n  95.0w    30 kt...inland
120hr VT     27/0600z 34.5n  94.5w    25 kt...inland dissipating

 

 
$$

1,471 posted on 09/22/2005 1:46:12 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: Howlin; NautiNurse
And new probabilities -

000                                
WTNT73 KNHC 220832                 
SPFAT3                             
HURRICANE RITA PROBABILITIES NUMBER  19
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
4 AM CDT THU SEP 22 2005           
                                   
PROBABILITIES FOR GUIDANCE IN HURRICANE PROTECTION
PLANNING BY GOVERNMENT AND DISASTER OFFICIALS
                                   
AT 4 AM CDT...0900Z...THE CENTER OF RITA WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 24.9 NORTH...LONGITUDE  88.0 WEST
                                   
CHANCES OF CENTER OF THE HURRICANE PASSING WITHIN 65 NAUTICAL MILES
OF LISTED LOCATIONS THROUGH  1AM CDT SUN SEP 25 2005
                                   
LOCATION           A  B  C  D  E   LOCATION           A  B  C  D  E
                                   
26.1N  91.1W      42  X  X  X 42   FREEPORT TX        X 10 10  2 22
27.2N  92.8W      19 10  X  X 29   PORT O CONNOR TX   X  8 10  2 20
28.8N  94.3W       X 16  7  1 24   CORPUSCHRISTI TX   X  4  9  2 15
PENSACOLA FL       X  X  1  3  4   BROWNSVILLE TX     X  3  4  2  9
MOBILE AL          X  X  2  4  6   GULF 29N 87W       X  1  1  2  4
GULFPORT MS        X  1  4  4  9   GULF 28N 89W      11  3  1  1 16
BURAS LA           1  6  4  2 13   GULF 28N 91W      17  6  1  X 24
NEW ORLEANS LA     X  4  7  2 13   GULF 28N 93W       8 17  1  X 26
NEW IBERIA LA      X  7  8  3 18   GULF 28N 95W       1 17  4  1 23
PORT ARTHUR TX     X  7 11  3 21   GULF 27N 96W       X 13  4  1 18
GALVESTON TX       X 11  9  2 22   GULF 25N 96W       X  5  2  2  9
                                   
COLUMN DEFINITION   PROBABILITIES IN PERCENT
A IS PROBABILITY FROM NOW TO  1AM FRI
FOLLOWING ARE ADDITIONAL PROBABILITIES
B FROM  1AM FRI TO  1PM FRI        
C FROM  1PM FRI TO  1AM SAT        
D FROM  1AM SAT TO  1AM SUN        
E IS TOTAL PROBABILITY FROM NOW TO  1AM SUN
X MEANS LESS THAN ONE PERCENT      
                                   
FORECASTER BEVEN                   
                                   
                                   
$$

1,472 posted on 09/22/2005 1:52:04 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: steveegg

Thanks for the update, Steve.


1,473 posted on 09/22/2005 1:52:57 AM PDT by Unknown Freeper (Doing my part...)
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To: steveegg; Howlin; NautiNurse

Model tracks as shown on Houston TV channel 2 just showed more slippage to the east/north.


1,474 posted on 09/22/2005 1:54:44 AM PDT by Heatseeker ("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
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To: Unknown Freeper
Not a problem.

That 48-hour update puts Rita about 45 miles southeast of Galveston (the star at the link) at 1 am Saturday.

1,475 posted on 09/22/2005 2:02:56 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: Crazieman


Weather Underground now is pushing it slightly north east of Galveston.

1,476 posted on 09/22/2005 2:03:58 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12

Time to leave.


1,477 posted on 09/22/2005 2:05:15 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: dogbyte12

I am heading to bed. Hopefully it will look better when I wake up.


1,478 posted on 09/22/2005 2:05:33 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Heatseeker

Yep. NHC's 3-day track shows the center of the cone just east of Galveston Bay.


1,479 posted on 09/22/2005 2:05:35 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: Ichneumon
I'll bet the Marriott doesn't take pets, though...

Maybe, maybe not......(just trying to help you avoid that *lovely* ride out of TX & into NM)

Also maybe local animal shelters could help you out.

It's sure been nice to see that TX is so 'pet friendly' during a disaster......& so much better organized to evac their people.

1,480 posted on 09/22/2005 2:05:50 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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