Who's side is Specter on?
My notes are ragged, but the best I could do while seething.
My notes on the hearing: :
Biden says he is here because of his high regard for Curt Weldon, and much he told me I was unaware of , and it turns out to be true.
Specter and Biden both are vouching for Weldon. Biden says Weldon is a strong republican but he has no political agenda here. Biden says his staff verifies Able Danger uncovered Atta before 9-ll. Biden is disappointed, can't understand why the DoD witnesses have been pulled...Biden thinks this is a mistake. Biden says Specter never takes no for an answer, and Biden expects Specter to pursue those witnesses.
Biden has to leave, will stay as long as possible, and hopes the Pentagon will reverse itself. Biden says he's seen no reason for their action.
Senator Kyle welcomes Weldon, appreciates his efforts, blah blah. Klye says we are going to have a lot of work ahead of us. Kyle agrees with Specter that their committee must do a lot of work on posse commitattas in order to resolve problems.
No one elsse on the committee there, This is a big diss!
Weldon begins reading, thanks Biden and Kyle for showing up.
Able Danger existed. 5 have told me and your staff that Atta and 3 other terrrorists were identified before 9-ll.
Weldon makes the point: The pentagon says the 5 can't testify because of classified information, but wweeks ago said all the Able Danger info was all open source information, not classified.
Weldon says it was a 9-ll commission member who encouraged him to investigate Able Danger.
Biden elicits the informaition "
Able Danger started in 98, terminated in 2000.
Biden asked why was Able Danger shut down.
Weldon says important names were included in data mining. (It was Condeleeza Rice)
this was prototype operation, so sensitive to coincidental, embarrassing information.
Weldon says it was significant reason Able Danger was shut down.
Massive data mining is the same info Dems and Reps use in gathering voter information.
Biden says he's inclined to accept what the witnesses would have said as truthful, the part that confuses Biden is it started in the Clinton administration, continued through Bush administration. Biden doesn't understand why Pentagon is so adament it be hidden. Doesn't understand why a cover -up is necessary. to protect Clinton? to protect Bush?
Biden will submit questions in writing.
Specter asks about "character assasination' Weldon says witnesses were threatened, LTC Schaaeffffer haad his security clearance removed day before yesterday. Weldon says Pentagon's Larry Dirita questioned the memory of Philpottt.
Weldon says the pentagon did not conduct a formal investigation. No notes, not supoenas, just "informal" meetings.
Eileen Prisser (sp) concurs Atta was identified by Able Danger before 9-ll.
Clines Smith (sp) is contractor who will tesstify today who told him to destroy Able Danger data, and threatened with loss of job andd possible jail if he refused.
General Lambert was the Able Danger customer who wasn't told data was destroyed.
Kyle will "game" why pentagon might want to keep testimony from being made public.
Because it might reveal ability, might tip somebody off they were part of an investigation.
Weldon says he agrees with Kyle those concerns are bogus. The information was open source, not classified. "Vote Smart" is the political project to ID voters....it's the same as Able Danger. 'you mean we can use open source mining for votes, but not for national security?"
Grassley makes an appearance, he hopes despite the Pentagon's resisstance, that Specter will continue to pursue this. Grassley sayss, "you can't have the pentagon hiding information from the congress." What's at stake here is whether we are going to let the Pentagon prrevent us from doing their jobs. All those stars and ribbons must not prevent us from doing our jobs.
Grassley will submit questions in writing.
Two weeks after 9-ll, Able Danger info fwas taken to Weldon. Weldon took info to Steven Hadley. Hadley asked, "where'd you get this info on Atta and the Brooklyn Cell?"
Hadley said, "ive got to show this to the man", meaning the president. Hadley was deputy national security chairman.
Slate Gorton has written a letter to Specter which will be put into the record. Damn! I wish Specter had read it aloud. !!
Weldon leaves witness table.
Three lawyers comprise 2nd panel. They speak for their clients.
Mark Zaid, looks very young. He says he's here as surrogate, his lawfirm represents covert clientss involved with national security
LTC Schaeffer, James Smith, private contractor, are his clients.
Zaid says sthis is not a partisan issue, both sides involved in CYA. Nothing is classified
No Pentagon official has told Zaid they were concerned with classified info getting out.
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second set of notes
Zaid says the main focus should be "where are the other terrorists identified on those charts".?
Kyle establishes the fact that the witnesses themselves should be allowed to testify.
Maj Erik Kleinsmith, retired, Former Chief of Intelligence, Land Information Warfare Analysis testifies. Explains how data mining can assist in intelligence gathering.
Special Operations approached him to support Able Danger. We were able to map Al Queda as worldwide threat within 4 months. they were shut down because of concerns about
oversight concerns, dictated by Intelligence Oversight rules we had to live by.
Specter asks what knowledge he has about destruction of documents. Kleinsmith says I'm the guy. I destroyed data. all of it classified and unclassified. all charts, all soft and hard copy destroyed or deleted.
We May, JUne 2000 is when documentation was destroyed.
We got instructions, Tony Gentry ordered it all destroyed. Army 381-10 regulation regarding keeping info on private citizens no longer than 90 days.
"Delete this info or you guys will go to jail," Gentry told Kleinsmith"
Specter is most interested in finding out if all this is connected to Posse Commitattttas. spector is a one trick pony, on Posse C. Gentry says no, it's not Posse C, it's army regulations. Specter is disappointed..that's his main interest.
Kleinsmith believes Shaeffer, and Philpott IMPLICITELY. Kleinsmith doesn't remember seeing Atta himself, but he believes Shaeffer and Philpott when they say they saw Atta and remember seeing his picture.
Kleinsmith said every night I say, if we had not been shut down, we would have been able to help prevent 9-ll. we think we might have helped prevent it....me and the members of our team all believe that.
thank God! Senator Sessions showed up!!!
Kleinsmith says I could have convveniently forgotten to delete the information, but that would have violated the specific army regulation.
Kleinsmith consulted legal advice before he deleted Able Danger.
Sessions ask if Army regulation should be changed? Kleinsmith says my recommendation would be to investigate how helpful open data mining can be in fighting terrorists.
Sessions says we get after the mililtary for breaking regulations, now we are after them for keeping them.
Lawyer Zaid tells Sessions private contractors are under no regulations to prevent them from open data gathering. Says the Army got into trouble over helping .local law enforcemtn at Waco.
Zaid says as he understands the laws, Able Danger would not have crossed the line of being in violation of the Army regulation, or Posse C.
Those within Able Danger wwere confident they didn't cross the legal line, Zaid says.
What happened is when Atta was connected to Brooklyn, that made legal eagles think he was a private citizen.
Specter identifies Schaeffer and J. D. Smith The DoD has prohibited them from testifying, explains Zaid. Schaeffer specifically, and Smith becsause I advised him not to until we get specific instructions, because he still works for DoD.
J.D. Smith's contract with Orion at the Pentagon had no link to classified information.
Zaid says no information involved here is classified. Zaid says there is no reason why they should be prevented from testifying today.
Atta's photo was not a government provided photo. It was from private source. Smith remembers it because of the evil look.
Zaid is good, doing excellent job in explaining background of how 9-ll Commission staff got briefing on Atta, but never followed up. (I missed the name of the 9-ll Commission Deputy who got the briefing from Schaefffer). Sometime between the time Schaeffer briefed the 9-ll staff and the publication of the Report, someone made the decision for the Commission to ignore Able Danger.
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3rd set of notes:
next panel:
FBI Gary Bald, FBI Executive Assis Director Counterterrorism/Counterintelligence
Before 9-ll, sharing info was hampered by "the Wall". Since 9-ll, the Patriot act eliminated "the wall". removed real and perceived barriers. FBI has information sharing agency, Bald says.
The national data exchange.
The regional data exchange
Law Enforcement on line
FBI has 56 agencies, all involved with preventeing terrorism.
Tthe FBI also participates with the National Joint Force Task Force. The FBI is proud of it's cooperation with the military, so says Bald. This includes finger printing those captured by the military in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Gitmo.
Other member of panel.
William Dugan, Assistant to Rumsfeld for Intelligence Oversight.
The purpose of our oversight program is to ensure American persons are protected. " Persons" includes more than just "citizens". It includes foreign nationals.
Attorney General approved regulations from back in the 80s are what governs us.
He explains how it was created to protect anti-war demonstrators, civil rights demonstrators, etc.
Dugan explains no one in DOD has mission to collect data on Amreican citizens. In the course of performing our mission, sometimes we inadvertantly identify Americans, that's when the guidelines kick in.
Dugan says in answer to
HEY....Specter didn't swear in these people!!
Specter is trying to nail Dugan,asks again and again, if Able Danger could have helped prevenet 9-ll. Dugan refuses to respond. Dugan is there to dodge! Weldon is shaking his head "no", as he listens to Dugan.
At least Specter clearly nails Dugan as non-responsive, evasive, anad he clearly says, "i know you are here at the bidding of your boss". that would be Rumsfeld.
I had a phone call...is it over? Or in the inimitable lyrics of Peggy Lee...."Is that all there is my friends?"
The liberal side. He thinks he'll embarass America, but I think he'll end up embarrassing liberals.
"Who's side is Specter on?"
Ours! I think this is a very clever way to draw attention to these hearings, which the MSM would otherwise ignore. The MSM will start getting outraged with "what's the Pentagon hiding", and then Rummy will 'fold' and the info will come out.
I dunno, but I think a single bullet wiped out all 2.4 terabytes and also managed to pull security clearances.
"Who's side is Specter on?"
Impossible to answer. Grudgingly, I'll concede he's wearing the white hat at this point. Here's a guy who led the attack on Bork, and led the defense on Clarence Thomas. Go figure. I fought to prevent him from being appointed Judiciary Chair, but I have to admit, I'm loving him at the moment.
Sean Hannity had Congressman Weldon on today. I only caught the last sentence or so. So I don't know what was said, but I'm glad to see that Hannity is not abandoning this fight.
I heard that this idiot was a Democrat for years and only ran as a Republican because that was the only way he thought he could win, so.......viola, we have a RINO.
If Arlen "Mr. Single-Bullet Theory" Specter is placed in charge of an investigation, you can be sure that it is in order to whitewash and bury it.
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