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To: IMRight
If the storm pushed a tree into the house, Allstate would have to pay.

If the storm pushed the water into the house through the storm surge, Allstate should pay, unless a rider specifically excludes 'wind driven water' or all water damage.

If it's a levee break or a river flood, then Allstate shouldn't have to pay.

Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

48 posted on 09/21/2005 10:16:18 AM PDT by pierrem15
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To: pierrem15; dmz
Your 48 makes sense to me. I don't live in a flood plain, so I don't know if people who don't live in a flood plain can even buy the insurance. I know I probably wouldn't even think of it.

Allstate has a pretty crummy reputation in the auto insurance area for denying valid claims. My wife had to sue an Allstate insured in a clear case of liability where the other driver jumped a median and sideswiped her. I've heard they're also bad about not using OEM parts on auto repairs. Don't know how they are about homeowners insurance.

125 posted on 09/21/2005 10:51:14 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: pierrem15

When I was a claims rep, the rule of thumb was if it (flood) fell from the sky, it was covered. If it came up from the ground, it wasn't.

Therefore, I would think damage claims from storm surge, wind and rain through an opening caused by wind would be paid. Levee breaks and river floods would not be.

I was an auto adjuster for Allstate for a couple of years. They used to encourage me to circumvent the state laws in a number of different areas, particularly concerning the use of aftermarket replacement parts (as opposed to OEM)


131 posted on 09/21/2005 11:00:54 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: pierrem15
If the storm pushed a tree into the house, Allstate would have to pay.

Yup. Because a falling tree is covered. If the storm pushed the water into the house through the storm surge, Allstate should pay, unless a rider specifically excludes 'wind driven water' or all water damage.

Nope. And the standard policy DOES exclude damage caused by "rising waters"... which this certainly was.

Man... if you choose to live on the ocean and BELOW sea level... you've got to plan accordingly.

150 posted on 09/21/2005 12:01:47 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: pierrem15
If the storm pushed the water into the house through the storm surge

No, because the policies specifically EXCLUDE water that is on the ground. If your roof leaks and rain damages something some policies will cover it. If that water hits the ground and THEN flows into your house then it is excluded. When a legal contract specifically excludes something that kind of trumps the 'sounds reasonable to me' conclusion.
163 posted on 09/21/2005 1:47:12 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: pierrem15
Allstate should pay, unless a rider specifically excludes 'wind driven water' or all water damage.

It does. Here's the wording from the ISO standard homeowners policy:

"Water damage. Water damage means flood, surface water, waves, tidal water, overflow of a body of water, or spray from any of these, whether or not driven by wind."

173 posted on 09/21/2005 2:35:53 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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