[Wonder Warthog]

"This is what God wants us to do - not be dependent on others."

Well, that, and help the TRULY needy (which most on welfare really are not). And the type of help should tend toward the "hand up, not hand out", if at all possible.

[nmh]

"Well, that, and help the TRULY needy (which most on welfare really are not). And the type of help should tend toward the "hand up, not hand out", if at all possible."

Exactly!