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Able Danger: Pentagon Spikes Witnesses While Shaffer Reveals New Source
Captains Quarters ^ | September 20, 2005 | Captain Ed

Posted on 09/20/2005 9:08:30 PM PDT by bobsunshine

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To: texasbluebell

Weldon: The American govt belongs to the American people! It doesn't belong to the lawyer sitting there, it doesn't belong to Rumsfeld.

Yes! Go Weldon!


541 posted on 09/21/2005 3:58:09 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell

thanks.


542 posted on 09/21/2005 3:58:32 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: rodguy911

Has anyone kept track of the exact timeline. Testimony today stated that Atta hadn't been in the US before a certain date but other sources have said he was. Smith supposedly said he got information from a researcher out of California.

What's the deal about this picture?

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003349.htm

When was the photo taken?


543 posted on 09/21/2005 3:58:54 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: rodguy911

Going to Savage now.


544 posted on 09/21/2005 3:59:18 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: RummyChick

It's either real old or she got a makeover. More info coming out on this stuff all the time.


545 posted on 09/21/2005 4:01:09 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: RummyChick

That was confusing to me today as well. Was Atta id'd as being in the country and part of that cell pre 9/11 or not.

Conflicting reporting on this matter. One of the witnesses today said he wanted to correct something that was incorrect in the media. (I felt like telling him none of us would live that long. LOL)

Anyway, he said that Atta was not ID'd as being part of a cell in the US pre 9/11. That's contrary to what I've heard Weldon himself say (I think) and he's as close to this as anyone.


546 posted on 09/21/2005 4:02:26 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

I found an error. The article cited as the source for the information that the CIA was monitoring Atta's apartment doesn't mention the CIA at all. So we can't credit that story.


547 posted on 09/21/2005 4:02:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: rodguy911

I had my post 520 pulled. It was misleading.


548 posted on 09/21/2005 4:02:34 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell
Gotcha we all do it.
My wife just called and said if I don't get home I will have my own personal able danger,catch you good freepers later.
549 posted on 09/21/2005 4:07:06 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: rodguy911

Haha! That would not be good! No personal AD for you, I hope.


550 posted on 09/21/2005 4:08:16 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: popdonnelly

I didn't think the Telegraph article was meant to refer to the CIA info (but you are right it doesn't mention the CIA at all). In fact that part of the story was just left hanging without any references.

I wouldn't discard it completely. It may be part of the non-official Congress report. I guess it wouldn't do to publicly admit that the CIA had been operating on the territory of an allied nation (Gerrmany). But so far we have no confirmation.


551 posted on 09/21/2005 4:08:30 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Bingo! It's a no lose situation for Biden.


552 posted on 09/21/2005 4:08:49 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Peach

"The data was destroyed in 2000. But the program continued and there was a briefing to the Joint Chief of Staffs in 1/01 and again in the spring of '01."

Hmmm... If the data was ordered destroyed in 2000, that probably pulled the plug on them operationally. I wonder if they were just hanging on, performing dog and pony briefs for the brass, begging for funding to become a full blown program.

Many unanswered questions here.


553 posted on 09/21/2005 4:08:57 PM PDT by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Peach
"Why did lawyers decide to over-regulate the Regulation which says information can only be kept for 90 days unless one of 13 criteria are met and it sounded like a couple of those criteria were met"

Whenever the subject of DoD lawyers comes up, the whole world needs to know that Jamie "I Haven't Done Anything Wrong" Gorelick was General Counsel (#1 legal eagle over ALL DoD lawyers and policies) in 1993-94 and then as Associate Attorney General (1994-97) charged with overseeing ALL intel-related legal policies and regulations across all relevant departments including DoD!!!

Thus, I consider it highly likely that the DIA lawyers who went "well above what the law requires" (Gorelick's phrase when instituting her 'wall') were simply following direct and/or indirect guidance they had received from Gorelicker and her cohorts through the years...... why err on the side of stopping Al Qaeda plots against Americans when you can err on the side of pleasing ACLU and Democratic Party lawyers?????
554 posted on 09/21/2005 4:10:09 PM PDT by Enchante (Would you trust YOUR life to Mayor Nagin or Governor Blankhead?)
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To: rodguy911

LOL. Drive safe.


555 posted on 09/21/2005 4:10:49 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Enchante

Most interesting, enchante.

bbl


556 posted on 09/21/2005 4:11:23 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Peach

"If it's true that the Able Danger information had to be destroyed under the 90 day rule and Regulations as passed by Executive Order and/or Congress, then shame on them."

The personal privacy issue doesn't fall along party lines. So it is pretty hard to hang the 90 day rule on one side.

I remember that Enigma was classified for 50 years. And it was crucial to winning in Europe. Likewise breaking Japanese codes.

So hopefully we are able to keep secrets today, when so much depends on same.

I think AD was experimental. They didn't have credibility, or authorization to act on the gathered intelligence, in the timeframes being discussed.

I hope we now have super strength AD, plus authority to act on the info.

And further, I would like it better still if we could keep our yaps shut.

So at this stage I don't know if Weldon is a good guy, or an idiot. Same for the rest of them.

For now, I go with Rumsfeld. He thinks it should be quiet. Me too.


557 posted on 09/21/2005 4:17:03 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: All

Cspan supposedly will be running a repeat of the hearings, tonight at 10 something, according to one of Savage's callers.

I don't see it listed there yet myself, though cspan2 will be running it tomorrow at 5:54 am.

And cspan3 will be running it tonight at 7:40, in just a short while.


558 posted on 09/21/2005 4:17:18 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Peach

My recollection of the testimony is that Atta was identified as connected to the Brooklyn cell by Able Danger. However, one witness took pains to clarify that Able Danger had not identified Atta as being in the U.S. before 2000. Gotta check the transcript.


559 posted on 09/21/2005 4:19:51 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Peach

"And it is indisputable, imo, that the PR machine for the White House is simply horrible."

Nothing against the man personally, but Scott McClellan doesn't look like the best White House spokesperson that could be found.

Maybe they use him, to make GWB look sharp by comparison, as far as the spoken word. But Ari Fleischman was so much better at it.

Must all be part of a grande scheme, or something way above my pay grade.


560 posted on 09/21/2005 4:21:35 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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