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Able Danger: Pentagon Spikes Witnesses While Shaffer Reveals New Source
Captains Quarters ^ | September 20, 2005 | Captain Ed

Posted on 09/20/2005 9:08:30 PM PDT by bobsunshine

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To: pageonetoo

My support for Bush is gone if this is true.


401 posted on 09/21/2005 11:26:13 AM PDT by patriciamary
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To: FOXFANVOX
Last I checked, the only plane stopped in 9-11 was stopped by civilians with nothing more than the info on their cell phones to guide them.

What a good point. How many billions a year do we the taxpayers funnel to intelligence agencies?

And yet the General Militia of Flight 93 used their good common sense to arm themselves with whatever they could scrounge on the plane -- when they were denied any other weapons -- and took down a flying missile headed straight to the nation's capitol.

402 posted on 09/21/2005 11:26:37 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: McGruff

This is sickening,I thought Bush was an honest man,obviously not.


403 posted on 09/21/2005 11:27:24 AM PDT by patriciamary
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To: ovrtaxt; backhoe; ravingnutter; Peach
The one statement during the hearings about what AD actually did find, namely that Atta was identified prior to entering the US tallies with other information. This site has a complete timeline on 9/11.Here is a short recap of their first mention of Muhammed Atta:

During November 1998 until February 2001 Atta lives in a four room apartment at 54 Marienstraße in Hamburg. He shares this flat with a number of other al-Queda operatives. According to the site, during the 28 months Atta's name is on the apartment lease 29 Middle Eastern or African men register this address as their home address.

It is immediately under surveillance by the German intelligence because of connections to businessman Mamoun Darkazanli that connect to Said Bahaji (one of the two persons on the lease together with Atta).

9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed visits but despite the fact that he was wanted by the US since 1998 the US apparently fails to tell Germany what it knows about him [New York Times, 11/4/02; Newsweek, 9/4/02].

The CIA also starts monitoring Atta while he is living at this apartment, and does not tell Germany of the surveillance. Remarkably, the German government will claim it knew little about the Hamburg al-Qaeda cell before 9/11, and nothing directed them towards the Marienstrasse apartment. [Daily Telegraph, 11/24/01]

404 posted on 09/21/2005 11:29:24 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Enchante
Richard A. Clarke (1951) was appointed by President Clinton as the first National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism in May 1998, and continued in that position under George W. Bush.

Source

405 posted on 09/21/2005 11:30:05 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Enchante; ravingnutter; ovrtaxt; Peach; backhoe

Also, Google "Julie Sirrs", and "Robert Wright and John Vincent".

Lot's of dropped balls during the Clinton years.


406 posted on 09/21/2005 11:34:26 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy
FYI...the FBI got it wrong on two other hijackers as well...

The Washington Post refers to hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar when it later reports, “In November 1999, two Saudi Arabian men moved into a ground-floor apartment at the Parkwood Apartments, a town house complex near a busy commercial strip in San Diego .” [Washington Post, 9/30/01] Alhazmi's name is on the apartment lease beginning in November 1999. [Washington Post, 10/01] The Los Angeles Times similarly notes, “A man by [the name Alhazmi] moved to the Parkwood Apartments in San Diego in 1999, according to manager Holly Ratchford.” [Los Angeles Times, 9/15/01] Some reports even have them visiting the US as early as 1996. [Wall Street Journal, 9/17/01; Las Vegas Review Journal, 10/26/01] However, FBI Director Mueller has stated the two hijackers did not arrive in the US until the middle of January 2000, after an important meeting in Malaysia. While some news reports mention that the hijackers first arrive in late 1999 [Los Angeles Times, 9/1/02; Los Angeles Times, 11/24/02] , over time, mentions of the lease beginning in 1999 will slowly fade from media accounts.

Cooperative Research

And what about Johnelle Bryant...

According to Bryant, who has worked at the government agency for 16 years, Atta arrived in her office sometime between the end of April and the middle of May 2000, inquiring about a loan to finance an aircraft.

ABC

Then there is this:

The FBI also told the owners of the Norman flight school in 1999 that the FBI knew then of other pilots who had visited the Norman flight school that the FBI also knew were training for airplane attacks on public buildings including Mohammed Atta as well as Bin Laden’s own personal pilot.

Source

Atta was known to have aliases and false passports:

Spanish police last February arrested Algerians Khaled Madani, 33, and Moussa Laour, 36, on suspicion of furnishing phony passports to, among others, al Qaeda operatives Ramzi Binalshibh and Mohamed Atta. According to a February 29 Associated Press dispatch, Binalshibh revealed Madani's identity to interrogators at the American military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Source

407 posted on 09/21/2005 11:41:52 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ScaniaBoy

Appreciate the info- thanks!


408 posted on 09/21/2005 11:51:02 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: ravingnutter

Watch Bush's approval numbers drop even more. I'm tired of them taking the high road! The Democrats are harping all over Katrina with "Bush's fault!" Did the Republicans do that with 9/11??? No... but they freaking SHOULD HAVE!


409 posted on 09/21/2005 12:14:33 PM PDT by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote.)
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To: auboy

War Eagle auboy!

I do think the dems in the state leg has alot to do with historical voting. Have a feeling though that the voters are waking up. Birmingham/Jeff Co is helpless...don't think I need to tell you why.


410 posted on 09/21/2005 12:26:53 PM PDT by del4hope (Freedom of the Press is not a license to manipulate the public)
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To: mosquitobite
My, my...ye of little faith. The Pentagon stall is another rope-a-dope designed to get the liberal media foaming at the mouth over what they think the Bush Admin may be hiding. The DUmmies are already all over it like rabid dogs, screaming "Cover Up!" (Warning: foul language...hey they're Dems, what do you expect, LOL!). They think this means Bush knew in advance about 9/11...fools! They're gonna get their collective arses handed to them just in time for the next election!
411 posted on 09/21/2005 12:36:49 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: del4hope

War Eagle back atcha, del4hope!


412 posted on 09/21/2005 12:46:59 PM PDT by auboy (Alabama The Beautiful)
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To: ravingnutter

I saw that (rope a dope) in another thread. I pray you're right!!!


413 posted on 09/21/2005 12:47:28 PM PDT by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote.)
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To: backhoe; Enchante
The Dems have taken the bait. They think the Pentagon stall is because Bush is trying to cover up that he knew about 9/11 before it happened. See this and this (Warning: DU).

One in the first link was even talking how Bush ignored the Hart-Rudman report...you know the report commissioned by Clinton that recommended putting FEMA under the DHS, which caused the Katrina delays due to red tape? That is definitely the WRONG thing for them to bring up right now, but they don't realize it.

Rove strikes again, LOL!

414 posted on 09/21/2005 12:52:21 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Hilarious. I could only read a few posts -- life on DU is hazardous to one's mental health, as evidenced by the lunacy of the inmates there..... my favorite post was one alleging that if "neocon embeds" during the Clinton administration hadn't blocked AD info from getting to the great Richard Clarke, HE would have told Bill Clinton all about it and the world would have been saved..... YUP, that's the most plausible theory we've seen in a long time, the "neocons" had DoD "embeds" in the '90s making sure that Bill Clinton and Richard Clarke could not address terrorism effectively..... YUP, real braniacs in the DUmpster!


415 posted on 09/21/2005 12:54:54 PM PDT by Enchante (Would you trust YOUR life to Mayor Nagin or Governor Blankhead?)
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To: mosquitobite
" I'm tired of them taking the high road!"

....especially when the high road can get us killed.

416 posted on 09/21/2005 12:58:26 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: ravingnutter
Thanks for the info- because I regard you as a "freeper of renown," I ventured into the combination fever swamp & echo chamber that we all know fondly as the DUmpster.

It's at least as bad as I recall... this avatar kind of says it all:

On second thought, I think they are more unhinged than in the past- the Left really does seem to be losing their collective minds. Or whatever passes for them...

417 posted on 09/21/2005 1:03:13 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: ScaniaBoy
The story of the "Hamburg Cell" was on the History Channel two weeks ago. Will have to re-watch it and get some other information. Oh, they did mention "Able Danger" on the show and that they were prevented from contacting the FBI. It also had the time-line of when ATTA entered the USA. Think it was the summer of 2000. Will Check.
418 posted on 09/21/2005 1:15:38 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: Enchante
Just found on Newsmax:

Hours after Lt. Col. Shaffer revealed that he'd been muzzled, Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman told the New York Times that open testimony on Able Danger "would not be appropriate."

Newsmax

Oh goody...this is going to come out as a screaming headline in the NYT, LOL! Dang...I love Karl Rove!

419 posted on 09/21/2005 1:30:31 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: bobsunshine

later


420 posted on 09/21/2005 1:33:21 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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