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To: metmom

So, to be clear, tyrannosaurus rex and all other dinosaurs, along with lions, etc., were all created and living when man was created and placed on the Earth, on the sixth day. Despite those fangs, etc., they were all plant eaters***
***but they ate plants in such a way that they did not KILL the plants, or the cells of plants are not alive, because death did not enter the world until the fall of Adam.
Until the Fall.
Then man was excluded from the garden, animals became carnivorous, and the eating of plants killed the plants and their cells for the first time. Because only with the fall of Adam and Eve did death enter the world.
According to Genesis.

Query: did man and woman come into a world that was already peopled by plants and animals, per Genesis 1?
Or was the world barren and without plants or animals when God made Adam first then the rest, per Genesis 2?

Never mind the fossil record, or the difficulty of eating plants without killing them (and thereby bringing death into the world before its appointed time with the fall of man): how do we reconcile the Bible record of Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 without making up a whole lot of speculative traditions that are not based on the Bible at all? Two timelines are presented within a handful of paragraphs of each other, in the first two books of Genesis. They conflict, badly, such they they cannot both be simultaneously true. Which is? And how do we know?


285 posted on 09/21/2005 11:29:46 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Vicomte13

YOu are in error. Sin existed prior to Adam and Eve sinning. Satan enticed Eve to sin.

Death came to man after he sinned. The earth was CURSED because of Adam's sin.

You are correct that before sin, there was no death. However, Satan is the first sinner.


286 posted on 09/21/2005 11:37:09 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Christian, Comedian, Husband,Opa, Dog Owner, former Cat Co-dweller, and all around good guy.)
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To: Vicomte13
plants are not flesh. Try again.

JM
292 posted on 09/21/2005 12:13:37 PM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: Vicomte13

Sensei Ern addressed some of your questions in the previous post (# @84) I had not spent a lot of time considering these questions because, in all honesty, I've never run into them in an evolution discussion. I thought Sensei Ern made some good points and will have to give the matter some more thought.


351 posted on 09/21/2005 8:24:05 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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