Posted on 09/20/2005 8:36:42 AM PDT by Monty610
DC Watson considers how CAIR wants to airbrush more than just a few hijabs:
Who knows? Perhaps drawing hijabs on bareheaded women in photographs is more demanding than we could've imagined.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008110.php http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46343
Nevertheless, it seems to be time for yet another reminder, and a lesson in reality for the Van Goghs at the Council on American Islamic Relations -- for they have incorrectly described some of those who died on September 11th, 2001, and failed to mention who it was that killed them.
From their own article:
News Releases Tuesday, September 13, 2005
CAIR: CO Rep's 'Crescent' Comments a Ploy to Gain Publicity GOP leaders urged to repudiate Tancredo's Islamophobic views
WASHINGTON, D.C., 9/13/05) The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today dismissed Rep. Tom Tancredo's (R-CO) comments on the design of a memorial to those aboard a plane that crashed in Pennsylvania on 9/11 as a cynical political ploy designed to gain national attention. (See: http://tancredo.house.gov/)
CAIR also called on state and national leaders of the Republican Party, including President Bush, to repudiate Tancredo's Islamophobic stance on the memorial issue.
In a letter sent to the National Park Service, Tancredo opposed the design's shape "because of the crescent's prominent use as a symbol in Islam." Extremist and anti-Muslim Internet bloggers have associated the design's semi-circular shape with Islam, despite the fact that the designer, the park service and relatives of crash victims say the shape is a circle broken by the flight pattern of Flight 93 when it crashed near Shanksville, Pa. (The crescent itself has no religious significance in Islam, but is commonly associated with that faith.)
http://www.cair-net.org/default.asp?Page=articleView&id=1746&theType=NR
Those aboard a plane that crashed in Pennsylvania on 9/11? Crash victims?
Islamophobic remarks, extremist and anti-Muslim internet bloggers . It just goes on and on with them, doesnt it? Round and round we go.
CAIR should again be reminded that we are fully aware why these people were aboard a plane that crashed in Pennsylvania on 9/11. Flight 93 crashed because a handful of brave Americans overpowered their devout Muslim captors and prevented the plane from reaching its designated target. Quite simply, with no Muslim hijackers on Flight 93, the likelihood of the plane ever crashing would have been significantly reduced. These people were not crash victims. They were victims of an Islamic terrorist attack, and for what they did, they are American heroes.
Regarding the association between the crescent and Islam, this conclusion is not Islamophobic; it is accurate. Perhaps the crescent doesnt have any religious significance in Islam. However, it has had a defining relationship with Islam since the days of the Ottoman Empire. To this day, Algeria, Azerbaijan, Comoros, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Pakistan, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Uzbekistan, and Western Sahara all employ the use of the crescent on their national flags. http://www.fotw.net/flags/islam.html
CAIR's apparent trivializing of the deaths of innocent Americans who lost their lives at the hands of Muslim lunatics, defining them as "crash victims," is just another shameful episode in the history of an organization that is well acquainted with shameful episodes.
If Islamic symbols, or anything that resembles them were ever to be included in any of the planned 9/11 memorials, should it not be for the purpose of permanently enshrining an indictment of those who perpetrated the most deadly terror attack on American soil in the history of our great nation?
Perhaps photographs of the nineteen hijackers, their commanders, and their apologists should be encased into the sidewalks at the memorials' sites, so that they can be stepped on and walked across by all who live in freedom.
In the meantime, the designers, with thanks to all who contacted them and requested that they return to earth, have decided to do so, and alter the design of the Flight 93 Memorial. Read about it here: http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003543.htm
(manwiththehands scoffs)
"those aboard a plane that crashed on 9/11"
Very telling words from CAIR indeed.
We're on to the racism, "islamophobia" nonsense claims. They no longer carry any impact for a great number of the civilized world. As long as CAIR continues its' transparent tactics, that number will continue to grow.
"Crash victims"!?!?!? How dare they. "Crash victims" is a term used when a plane has a 'mechanical failure' or a plane crashes due to natural disaster aka weather related. The planes of 9/11 had none of those issues.
[quote]Regarding the association between the crescent and Islam, this conclusion is not Islamophobic; it is accurate. Perhaps the crescent doesnt have any religious significance in Islam. However, it has had a defining relationship with Islam since the days of the Ottoman Empire. To this day, Algeria, Azerbaijan, Comoros, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Pakistan, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Uzbekistan, and Western Sahara all employ the use of the crescent on their national flags. [quote]
The reason that the crescent moon doesnt have any religious significance in Islam is because it had nothing what so ever to do with Islam or Muslims to begin with. This flag that they boast their "own" has origins in Western and Christian civilization. I've posted this on another threat but I'll post it here too. They seem to like to attack Western culture and values but don't think twice about taken symbols that originate in the West. If the city of Constantine didn't fall to the Ottomans their "crescent flag" would not be in existance today. Jerks.
That flag that they are calling their "own" was the original flag of the ancient city of Byzantine, the city in later times came to be known as the Byzantine Empire aka Eastern Roman Empire. Byzantine was founded by Greek colonists from Megara in 667 BC and named after their king, Byzas. The city's patron was Artemis/Diana Goddess of the Hunt, who's symbol was the crescent moon. In 667BC they OFFICIALLY crowned their city's flag with the crescent moon in honor of Artemis/Diane. In 330 AD after Constantine became Christian and moved Nova Roma to the East, he also added the Virgin Mary's star on the flag. When the city fell to the Ottomans in 1453 the Ottoman rulers saw this flag all over Constantinopoli and took it as their own "new Islamic" flag. Blah!
They can try to explain it away by saying that ancient cultures have always worshipped the sky, moon and stars but the fact still remains that it was the Greek city of Bynzantium to be the first state to ever use it as their national flag and as an official governing symbol in 667 BC. Muslims didn't use this flag until Byzantine[modern day Instabul] fell to them. So basically they are flying under a flag that originally not only was it the flag of a Western civilization but a Christian symbol to boot. What irony.
This follows the strange pattern that Islam uses whenever they move into a new territory. Invariably, existing religous sites and shrines are decreed to now, and henceforth, be sacred holy sites of Islam, oft times using the flimiest of excuses, or sometimes using no excuse at all, in claiming it under the name of Mohammed.
In this particular case you've offered up, I'm sure the irony is lost on them.
And who here would be surprised by that?
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