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To: Question_Assumptions

"That they haven't found such evidence yet does not mean that ID is not science"




Hmm...perhaps not...but one doesn't normally find unsupported hypotheses discussed in primary and secondary school textbooks.

Here's my hypothesis:

The universe is supported on the back of an immense tortoise. You cannot see it because you are part of the universe and cannot see beyond its reaches.

Now, I'm going to begin lobbying for my theory of the universe to be placed in every textbook used in our public schools. You cannot demonstrate that my hypothesis is incorrect, and I claim that it is correct. I haven't found the actual evidence yet, but one thing's clear:

The Universe has to be held up by something. Anything that large must be supported. Tortoises are quite strong for their size, and are slow-moving. For that reason, an immense tortoise is statistically the most likely support for the universe.

Further, you may find evidence of the immense tortoise in ancient Hindu documents, which further prove my case.

If my theory of the immense tortoise does not appear forthwith in textbooks, I can think nothing else but that there is a bias against hinduism in our texts.

Now, I make no religious claim in my hypothesis. That would not be scientific, but can you come up with a better explanation for the support of the Universe.

I call my hypothesis the IT hypothesis and you may be sure you will be hearing more about it.


945 posted on 09/22/2005 8:04:46 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
Hmm...perhaps not...but one doesn't normally find unsupported hypotheses discussed in primary and secondary school textbooks.

All sorts of goofy things get taught in school by teachers.

Here's my hypothesis:

It's not a hypothesis. It's a straw man. But I'll play for the sake of argument.

The universe is supported on the back of an immense tortoise. You cannot see it because you are part of the universe and cannot see beyond its reaches.

What reason do you have to believe that either (A) the current theories of how the universe works are inadequate to explain the universe or (B) the tortoise exists? The problem is that you can't honestly answer these questions because your example is a straw man. A ID advocate or even a biblical literalist could honestly answer these questions, even if you don't find their answers personally persuasive.

Now, I'm going to begin lobbying for my theory of the universe to be placed in every textbook used in our public schools. You cannot demonstrate that my hypothesis is incorrect, and I claim that it is correct. I haven't found the actual evidence yet, but one thing's clear:

If you can muster thousands of supporters who honestly believe in the tortoise and want their children taught about the tortoise in school, then by all means lobby away. That's how democracy works -- power lies in numbers. Of course if we had effective school vouchers, a lot of this problem would go away and Fundamentalists could send their kids to Fundamentalist schools, Atheists could send their kids to Atheist schools, Tortoise people could send their kids to Tortoise schools, and so on.

953 posted on 09/22/2005 8:28:32 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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