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To: donh
Well, fine, but artificial vs. natural isn't the same question as supernatural vs natural--how many definitional ratholes are we going to wonder into?

I wonder that myself, considering that you think there's some all-important distinction between artificial and "supernatural". Perhaps you can elaborate on that somehow, seeing as how it's the word you keep insisting on using.

May I take it you think aphid evolution is natural, but dog evolution is not?

Same way that an anthill is natural, but the Pentagon is not.

What is the value of this distinction?

Ask Darwin. He was the one who came up with the term "natural selection", specifically in contrast to the type of evolution that comes from man's breeding of animals.

1,238 posted on 09/27/2005 10:37:22 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest
I wonder that myself, considering that you think there's some all-important distinction between artificial and "supernatural". Perhaps you can elaborate on that somehow, seeing as how it's the word you keep insisting on using.

Considering that we just had a discussion in which you denied that ID is primarily about the supernatural version of ID, If you can't distinguish between "artificial" and "supernatural", then this is an "artificial" rathole, and you're the rat who intentionally designed it. I am inclined to think you are simply trolling for amusement to see how long you can get someone to twist in definitional limbo before wising up, and unless you come up with sometihng meaty to talk about, I think I'll probably decline to participate further.

1,240 posted on 09/27/2005 12:31:03 PM PDT by donh
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