Rioters set fire to British troops

The Daily Telegraph ^ | 20th September, 2005 | Adrian Blomfield and Thomas Harding

[Southack]

"The same is true of Iraqis. They are wild and ungovernable by anyone other than a brutal dictator. People get the government they deserve, and Iraqi's deserve someone exactly like Saddam Hussein."


Rubbish.

Tell me, oh great monday morning armchair quarterback, just precisely WHO is the brutal dictator currently governing the peaceful Kurds in the North and Shia in the South?

Name him. Explain WHO is brutally governing the Kurds and Shia in Iraq today.

I'll be waiting...breathlessly.

[monday]

"Tell me, oh great monday morning armchair quarterback, just precisely WHO is the brutal dictator currently governing the peaceful Kurds in the North and Shia in the South?"

There isn't one, which is why you have Shia rioting in the streets and setting fire to British soldiers.

The Kurds are still hopeful that we will help them get their own self governing region, so they aren't attacking us. Yet. The Kurds aren't Arab so they have enough sense to act in their own best interests.

Arabs are just nuts. They have no common sense at all. A combination of Islam and their tribal culture makes them hate everyone that isn't them. That is why Muslims, if they are not waging jihad against non Muslims, they are fighting Muslims of a different religious sect or tribe. It is a culture that embraces and glorifies conflict. Arab Muslims have a saying that they love death like westerners love life.

There isn't anything we can do about it. It's just who they are.

[monday]

"Not true. Brazil has roughly 40,000 murders per year."

Thats just due to demographics. Brazil has a much younger population than the US for instance. Americans 18-24 have a murder rate of 33.2 per 100,000 people, while the average for Americans as a whole is only 6.8 per 100,000.

Brazil, with a population of over 186 million has a murder rate of 19 per 100,000. In comparison, Iraq has a terrorist death rate of 42 per 100,000, Russia has a murder rate of 20 per 100,000, Jamaica 32 per 100,000, Venezuela 32 per 100,000, Zimbabwe 7 per 100,000, South Africa 49 per 100,000, and Columbia 61 per 100,000.

Still none of these others has the rampant terrorism that Iraq has right now. Terrorism by it's random nature makes people more frightened than ordinary murders do. Saddam certainly terrorized his citizens, but it didn't have the same random nature that terrorism in Iraq has now. Saddam didn't allow opposition groups to terrorize citizens like they are now. He was quite effective at destroying all opposition to his rule.

[Shazolene]

Yes, the first thing I thought of when seeing the headline and the Basra location was Steven Vincent's last columns. It seems the British are just 'doing time' instead of really trying to get them with the program down there.

If there is much more of this attitude, we will pull defeat from the jaws of victory. All the elections in the world won't matter if these guys have the real power.

Come on, we didn't sacrifice blood and treasure to set up a new Taliban in Iraq!

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Terrorist don't have any problems about wasting children and that's why the civilians of Iraq do not oppose them.

Correct, and that is what makes them such a despicable enemy. As has been try since the Korean War, we are required by our political left, who have intimidated the rest to go along, we must fight with both hands tied. We have to kill in the kindest way possible and only after checking IDs having done a background check on those we kill.

It is obvious who the left wants to win in all these wars. Time for us to stand up, The Sheriff in Arizona has proved we don't have to give in to the left.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Stanley Kubrik is not PC. :-)

[dervish]

"Come on, we didn't sacrifice blood and treasure to set up a new Taliban in Iraq!"

The politician with nine lives, Mr Chalabi, could be of help here. That's right the CIA blew him off.

[Shazolene]

But... he's back!
At least they can't call him a US puppet now.

[Ninian Dryhope]

It is probably not a good idea to turn a cock-up into an unmitigated disaster, on that we can agree.

[FreedomCalls]

Here's a picture of it happening. It looks really bad, but he got out and was doused with a fire extinguiser and is OK.

Of course, the sorry-a** photographer just stood there and took pictures.

[Lost Humanist]

"The Iraqis are helping us with intel and they are fighting..

The Brits think their kinder gentler approach is superior..and things have gotten out of hand in Basra.."


Proportional casualty ratios between the two armies and the two cities says the British approach is better. Rather a fuss kicked up over a riot and than commemorating the 2000th luckless soldier to buy it on the streets of Baghdad.