[Rudder]

If, unlike the postmodern left, the ID movement can enlist mainstream conservatives in questioning science's capacity to produce objective truth, then it's by no means clear the effort won't succeed. In that case, it will end up threatening a whole lot more than just evolution.

I, and the other evolutionist-scientists here at FR, have been consistent in positing the view of this quoted paragraph for quite some time now---namely, that the ID "movement" could: (1.) undermine science and (2.) undermine conservatism (because of its association with ID as portrayed by the MSM.)

It seems to me that, for a variety of reasons, ID/creationists do not have regard for objective and empirical observations. Truth to them is merely a matter of who can shout the loudest and, as such, is purely political.

[Rudder]

((((ping))))

[ml1954]

I, and the other evolutionist-scientists here at FR, have been consistent in positing the view of this quoted paragraph for quite some time now---namely, that the ID "movement" could: (1.) undermine science and (2.) undermine conservatism (because of its association with ID as portrayed by the MSM.)

I'd just like to add to '(2.)undermine conservatism ' and destroy the currently governing conservative coalition.

[Doctor Stochastic]

It seems to me that, for a variety of reasons, ID/creationists do not have regard for objective and empirical observations. Truth to them is merely a matter of who can shout the loudest and, as such, is purely political.

Both creationism and creationism-lite are essentitally equivalent to postmoderndeconstructionism. Their political goals are identical, invalidation of scientific inquiry as a means of gaining knowledge.

[MEGoody]

It seems to me that, for a variety of reasons, ID/creationists do not have regard for objective and empirical observations.

My objective, empirical observation is that you have are a bit arrogant.

[Little Ray]

...questioning science's capacity to produce objective truth...

I question science's capacity to produce objective truth - or at least that of scientists. Scientists often act like priests in white lab coats, demanding the (figurative) burning at the stake of upstarts that challenge their theories.
IMHO, Science is generational thing; new theories and discoveries are made, then you have to wait for that generation and their disciples have to die off before more discoveries are made.