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Handbook I smuggled out of an Islamic convention
UAC undercover ;) ^ | CAIR

Posted on 09/19/2005 4:39:11 PM PDT by JesseP

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To: JesseP
1) Would the ACLU support them in the following. and 2) Would the ACLU support the Christians in the following:

That is not the point. How many Christian or other religious oprganizations encourage the same thing?? That the ACLU would support one but not the other is "given", but is hardly a reason to suspect sinister motives.

The ONLY dubious statement in the whole pamphlet is the "make up an organization". Taken at face value, it is promoting dishonesty - not a great thing for CAIR to be doing, but it's hardly a call to jihad.

Opps, gotta go, a black sedan just pulled up and I think I hear helicopters . . .

121 posted on 09/22/2005 1:45:35 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

It's so lovely to stretch things so far out of context.


122 posted on 09/22/2005 1:52:58 AM PDT by cdbull23 ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." - Homer on what's good to drink.)
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To: LibWhacker

90%? 9-11?

http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm


123 posted on 09/22/2005 7:05:10 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: zimdog
translation: I'm too lazy to try to refute you

The secrets of the universe can be found in a grain of sand. Now go find them, you lazy bum; you don't have anything better to do.

you put a lot of faith in a highly biased, anti-American, unscientific poll.

Poll? How about a multitude of polls and a zillion personal observations made not only by me but thousands and thousands of other people? I don't blame you for not being happy with your first response; it was pretty stinko. Same deal with the second response. It was a rare treat to see something that was simultaneously stinko and laughable. And your third response? Well, it just plain fell flat. Care to go for four?

In summary, you have completely failed to show us any evidence that there was any public show of spontaneous muslim outrage on 9/11. Slow, carefully calculated, highly choreographed displays, yes. But the true heart and intent of islam was fully revealed on 9/11, and only cowing dhimmis see it otherwise.

124 posted on 09/22/2005 10:02:36 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Valin
90%, yes. Of course, you have to be willing to do some inference. Some polls say, for instance, that 56% approve when muslims murder infidels, some that 93% agree with beheading them, some that 78% admire OBL most of all, some that 98% approve of this, some that 70% approve of that, yadda, yadda, yadda... These are all estimates that are painting a picture for us of some true, underlying parameter of interest; namely (to my way of thinking anyway), what percentage of muslims tacitly or overtly approve of the murder of innocent people? These data -- taken together with their public prnouncements and reactions, or lack thereof -- when these daily atrocities occur allow us to begin to get a handle on it.

It's plain to see where the average muslim stands: upwards of 90% "understand" why you've gotta kill infidels, and they are not going to condemn it. 'Fer chrissakes, they're throwing infants into pots of boiling water in the Sudan. They've slaughtered a million people there, many of them fellow muslims. It's just pure racist hatred. Have we seen any muslim outrage from so-called "good muslims" over that? No, and we won't.

125 posted on 09/22/2005 10:30:37 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Poll?

Yes, a poll. The Washington Times article you linked to quotes a call-in poll conducted during a talk show on al-Jazeera which "featured a fiercely anti-American political analyst, Talat Rumayh." Again, that's your source, not mine. Seeing how much you hate American military families, I wouldn't be suprised if you agreed with them.

How about a multitude of polls and a zillion personal observations made not only by me but thousands and thousands of other people?

A zillion? What a rigorous statistician you are!

Show us the polls -- so far all you have is a call-in show from al-Jazeera.

Care to go for four?

Answer the question in #120 first.

126 posted on 09/22/2005 10:43:00 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: LibWhacker
Have we seen any muslim outrage from so-called "good muslims" over that? No, and we won't.

Action, not outrage.

Bamako to be the site of relocated peacekeeping school in Mali

You'll have to read the article.

127 posted on 09/22/2005 10:52:09 AM PDT by zimdog
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Show us the polls

You first... Show me a picture of spontaneous muslim outrage on 9/11.

128 posted on 09/22/2005 10:53:38 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

I did, you idiot.


129 posted on 09/22/2005 10:56:39 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: LibWhacker

Answer the question in #120.


130 posted on 09/22/2005 10:59:33 AM PDT by zimdog
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Canada's foreign policy newsweekly??? Wow, you've done the impossible; you've found a source that's even more biased than al-Jazeera. What is it, like the official dhimmi news source for dhimmi apologists?


131 posted on 09/22/2005 11:03:55 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: zimdog

No, dhimmi clown. You've done nothing of the kind.


132 posted on 09/22/2005 11:04:28 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Do you mean to say that there aren't 500 Malian troops stationed in Darfur?


133 posted on 09/22/2005 11:06:06 AM PDT by zimdog
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You ever serve in the US military, dhimmi? 'Course not. You don't know what it means to support the military.


134 posted on 09/22/2005 11:06:29 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Then what does the picture in #120 show?


135 posted on 09/22/2005 11:07:18 AM PDT by zimdog
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Wow, 500 snoozing Mali troops... While babies are being tossed into boiling water.


136 posted on 09/22/2005 11:07:48 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: zimdog

Was it taken on 9/11? Prove it. Is that really her brother? Prove it. Might be the one who deserted in Falluja. Not interested in your staged photos, dhimmi.


137 posted on 09/22/2005 11:10:22 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Who's snoozing? There are more troops on the way.

By your logic, American troops must be snoozing -- after all, there are still atrocities committed in Iraq every day.

Of course, seeing how much you hate our military (or at least the Muslims in our military), that attitude wouldn't surprise.


138 posted on 09/22/2005 11:17:26 AM PDT by zimdog
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By your logic, American troops must be snoozing

Five hundred snoozing troops is an inadequate response, dhimmi. Pure tokenism.

139 posted on 09/22/2005 11:22:57 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Was it taken on 9/11? Prove it.

It was found on website of pictures from 9/11 and the following days in New York City. I can't certify the exact date any more than you can for the pictures you posted.

Is that really her brother? Prove it.

Well, the resemblance is striking, but even if they aren't brother and sister, she supports the troops and you called her a "smirking whore".

Might be the one who deserted in Falluja.

This guy? No.

But all those Arab Untermenschen look the same to you, right?

140 posted on 09/22/2005 11:35:01 AM PDT by zimdog
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