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To: jess35

Let's not be stupid about all of this.

The most logical thing is to present both sides of the argument since both are just theories. Then you present the facts that are known.

No one can prove how our world was created, and that is just the way it is.

Now, you can prove things like how old objects are through science such as carbon dating.

You can prove the similarities between the species through DNA, that's science.

However, you cannot prove that anything actually evolved. We've never seen a species actually evolve into a new species. It's just a theory. People present it as fact, and it is not.

I was a chemical engineering major for 3 years before I switched to computer science. I have a minor in chemistry.

I know science. Yes, there are lots of theories, but most of them can be proved. Evolution cannot be proved. I'm not saying that it didn't happen. I actually don't have a problem if it did.

However, I like to look at theories and prove them. That's what real scientist do.


121 posted on 09/20/2005 12:24:01 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

"The most logical thing is to present both sides of the argument since both are just theories. Then you present the facts that are known."

Only one is a scientific theory though. ID doesn't cut the mustard.

"I know science. Yes, there are lots of theories, but most of them can be proved."

You don't science as well as you think. NO theory has been proved. Evolution is no different than the theory of universal gravity or quantum mechanics.

"However, I like to look at theories and prove them. That's what real scientist do."

That's what no scientist CAN do.


122 posted on 09/20/2005 12:31:35 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: luckystarmom
The most logical thing is to present both sides of the argument since both are just theories.

One is a scientific theory, the other is not.

I know science.

You may "know" science but you don't understand science. There is a huge difference between the two.

170 posted on 09/20/2005 8:09:00 PM PDT by jess35
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To: luckystarmom
Let's not be stupid about all of this. Too late.

The most logical thing is to present both sides of the argument since both are just theories. "Both" sides? False dichotomy. There is ONE "side" and no debate OR there are infinite sides with infinite creation myths. You happened to grow up (most likely) in a Western Christian country. Your creation myth would be very different if you wore a gourd on your genitalia.

No one can prove how our world was created, and that is just the way it is. Nor would anyone say otherwise - except certain religious folk.

Now, you can prove things like how old objects are through science such as carbon dating. Science has moved far beyond Carbon dating. But you knew that.

However, you cannot prove that anything actually evolved. We've never seen a species actually evolve into a new species. Sigh.

It's just a theory. People present it as fact, and it is not. Double sigh. Gravity is "just a theory." ID is pure whimsy - nowhere near the status of scientific theory. If I emailed you this every day for the rest of your life, at what point would you understand it?

I was a chemical engineering major for 3 years before I switched to computer science. I have a minor in chemistry. Yay. Jimmy Carter was a nuclear engineer.

I know science. Yes, there are lots of theories, but most of them can be proved. I'll forgive you, most scientists cannot conjugate a verb to save their lives. But most do know that one does not "prove" a "theory."

However, I like to look at theories and prove them. That's what real scientist do. Iz dat right? Quit while you're ahead.
171 posted on 09/20/2005 8:44:00 PM PDT by whattajoke (I'm back... kinda.)
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