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To: joanie-f; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
I don't believe that either betty or I was defining 'happiness' as consisting of anything as superficial or fleeting as 'whistling as we drive down the road with the top down on a beautiful, balmy afternoon.'

Please do not take my words to mean that I believe either you or betty have a flippant view of happiness. I’m simply saying that the word, as it was secularly understood by the Founding Fathers, can be viewed as haveing less import than it does. I guess I issued an unnecessary cautionary tale. No offense intended.

I do not know your religious beliefs, or lack thereof

Well, I’m a cranky old Presbyterian, who over 40 years ago saw the handwriting on the wall and understood his church was abandoning him. I had no desire for spiritual goo, so I walked away and haven’t been back.

199 posted on 09/30/2005 1:59:28 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS
as it was secularly understood by the Founding Fathers

That's news to me, and it will take more to convince me. Happiness is a religious concept. It cannot be understood without pursuit. It is nothing without freedom. It requires choice and choice is tied to a criterion of excellence. That's religion.

204 posted on 10/02/2005 9:50:48 AM PDT by cornelis
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