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Mystery Surrounds 'Porcelain Of The Southwest'
Science Daily ^ | 9-7-2005

Posted on 09/18/2005 3:55:14 PM PDT by blam

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Simple.

The oldest pottery ever found was found in Japan.

The Hopi are Japanese descendants.

1 posted on 09/18/2005 3:55:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 09/18/2005 3:55:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
The Hopi are Japanese descendants.

Citations?

3 posted on 09/18/2005 3:58:06 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: blam

How was it made? With dirt, mud and some other crap. I promise, it isn't that compled and does not border on rocket science or even Greek Fire.


4 posted on 09/18/2005 4:00:12 PM PDT by Porterville (All that liberal screaming you hear is the sound of communism dying...)
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To: blam

Just want to say that I love these posts. They are almost always very interesting and a welcome relief from the unending political polarization in our culture today.

Thank you!


5 posted on 09/18/2005 4:00:43 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Bless our troops and pray for our nation.)
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To: blam

Coal, you would think that there would be kiln sites
where clinker would be found. What kind of coal, that is
very important. Natural draft or forced?
What about indications of coal use for heating living spaces
etc?

Probably where Global warming started!


6 posted on 09/18/2005 4:03:55 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blam

They had help from space aliens, just like the Egyptians did with the pyramids.


7 posted on 09/18/2005 4:04:48 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Nac Mac Feegle! The Wee Free Men! Nae king! Nae quin! Nae laird! We willna be fooled again!")
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To: blam
I'm still trying to understand porcelain of the Northeast.


8 posted on 09/18/2005 4:06:35 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: reformedliberal
"Thank you!"

You're welcome.

I Got my Indian Tribes mixed up. The Zuni are Japanese descendants.

The Zuni Enigma

"From Publishers Weekly The peaceful Zuni of New Mexico and Arizona are much studied, partly because their language, culture and physical appearance set them apart from other Native American peoples. Davis, an anthropologist who has made 10 visits to the Zuni pueblo, now offers the startling thesis that a group of Japanese Buddhists left earthquake-wracked medieval Japan and came by ship to the Southern California coast, eventually migrating inland to the Zuni territory, where they merged their culture and genes with Native Americans to produce the modern Zuni people around A.D. 1350. Davis uses "forensic" evidence--including analyses of dental morphology, blood and skeletal remains--to support a Japanese-Zuni connection. Further, she notes the Zuni's exceptionally high incidence of a specific kidney disease that is also unusually common in Japan. Yet she acknowledges there have been no DNA studies to confirm or refute her hypothesis, and she has not turned up a single 13th-century Japanese item in North America. Her bold, highly speculative theory gets a boost from some cultural parallels, including striking similarities between the Zuni and Japanese languages; between the Zuni "sacred rosette" found on robes and pottery and the Japanese Buddhist chrysanthemum symbol (presently Japan's imperial crest). A Zuni mid-January ceremony with masked monsters, aimed at frightening children into proper behavior, is almost identical to one in Japan. Davis's broader thesis that the Pacific was a "liquid highway" mounts a serious challenge to the entrenched idea of the peopling of the Americas solely via the Bering Strait land bridge. Open-minded readers will enjoy her beautifully written book as an opportunity to ponder our shared humanity. "

9 posted on 09/18/2005 4:10:35 PM PDT by blam
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To: Jeff Chandler
Citations?

Naw, just plain old ations.

10 posted on 09/18/2005 4:10:57 PM PDT by rock58seg ("Guest Workers," W's version of, "Read my lips." Secure our borders!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Citations

Blan has received three speeding tickets and four parking tickets.

11 posted on 09/18/2005 4:11:28 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: Larry Lucido
'Way back when Astounding Science Fiction magazine was still Astounding Science Fiction, they had a short story with future archaeologists debating the function of that exact porcelain object; I believe they decided it was a kiln of some sort.
12 posted on 09/18/2005 4:18:32 PM PDT by Grut
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To: blam

The Hopi are NOT Japanese Descendants, but the close neighbors there, the Zuni are.
Areas of West Central New Mexico and East Central Arizona were habitated by the Japanese from about the 5th centuryAD until about the 12th century AD Ref: The Zuni Enigima


13 posted on 09/18/2005 4:18:51 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Cindy Sheehan, American Traitor)
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To: blam

Maybe you just have to stick it in the kiln and Hopi and Prayee.


14 posted on 09/18/2005 4:20:14 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage

You're kiln me.


15 posted on 09/18/2005 4:25:34 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: tet68
kiln sites where clinker would be found.

The Hopi kiln fields?

The Hopi fields of fire?

16 posted on 09/18/2005 4:32:14 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Marching Morons are coming...and they're breeding more Democrats beyond all reason!)
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To: blam
"The curriculum, which combines engineering, anthropology, architectural history and art history, is particularly important today.."

Hmmmm---given the laundry list of high-powered analytical instrumentation they are planning to use, one hopes that the curriculum also includes a bit of "analytical chemistry".

17 posted on 09/18/2005 4:36:34 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Porterville

it isn't that compled

Certainly not as "compled" as my beeber!


18 posted on 09/18/2005 4:36:48 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blam
"Where does the yellow color come from, for instance?"

Ask the Potters of Firth

19 posted on 09/18/2005 4:39:47 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: Armedanddangerous
"The Hopi are NOT Japanese Descendants, but the close neighbors there, the Zuni are."

See my post #9, a correction.

20 posted on 09/18/2005 4:39:48 PM PDT by blam
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