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Germany's Schroeder Refuses to Concede
Associated Press ^ | 9/18/05 | DAVID RISING

Posted on 09/18/2005 11:45:50 AM PDT by anymouse

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121 posted on 09/19/2005 1:46:47 AM PDT by loveitor.. ("I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: loveitor..

Not very original or funny.
You Americans go crazy when Europeans depict Bush as Hitler, so don't set a bad example.
This is especially distasteful considering Schröder's family history.


122 posted on 09/19/2005 2:04:09 AM PDT by ukman
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To: ukman
It doesn't even look like Hitler but I understand your frustration. I'm curious to know Schroeder's family history you mention in your post. At my parish Church we have lots of Germans and Austrians Indeed the parish was founded in the 1830s by German immigrants to Detroit. The first pastor's name was Vandendriessche and they called the church Kirchen Wald because there was a cholera epidemic in Detroit and they had to settle in the woods outside the City. Of course the Church is now inside the City of Detroit and the second oldest parish. Many of the streets nearby are named for some of the original German families. We are now called Assumption Grotto.

Also, our parish benefits from an order of priests called the Canons Regular of the Holy Cross, many of whom are Austrian or German. We in the US are now considered missionary territory. : )

123 posted on 09/19/2005 2:50:07 AM PDT by Diva
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To: Diva

Schröder's father was already an impoverished labourer before he was conscripted and later killed in Romania in 1944, just after his son was born. I think it was last year his grave was finally found in some Romanian village, and Schröder made a trip there to pay his first and last respects.

His mother later remarried, but the family was unlucky and stayed poor all through the 50s, and was the German equivalent of "white trash". But he worked his way up out of poverty by sheer hard work and ambition. It explains a lot about his character.

Considering the consequences Hitler's war had for him personally, I consider this defacement of his picture to be distasteful and also very childish, to say the least.


124 posted on 09/19/2005 3:02:16 AM PDT by ukman
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

You know he voted FOR the 87 Billion, before he voted AGAINST it...


125 posted on 09/19/2005 5:16:23 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: anymouse

Taking a page from the Al Gore handbook?


126 posted on 09/19/2005 6:54:47 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: Ruddles

is schroeder going to form an alliance with the communist party


127 posted on 09/19/2005 7:39:46 AM PDT by omega4179 (A republic, if you can keep it)
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To: omega4179

No!
Read the rest of the thread.


128 posted on 09/19/2005 8:07:11 AM PDT by ukman
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To: anymouse

algore algore algore...soreloserman.


129 posted on 09/19/2005 8:08:52 AM PDT by JFC ( President Bush, You are being prayed for along with our country daily, by millions of us.)
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To: anymouse; BOBTHENAILER; SierraWasp

The Gore/Kerry game when liberals lose elections is not playing well in the financial markets. The German ETF fund, EWG has lost big time today because of the fraud of the German left.

MarketWatch
Market Pulse: German ETF tumbles after election deadlock
Monday September 19, 9:39 am ET
By John Spence


BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- An exchange-traded fund tracking German stocks lost ground in early action Monday after both Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Union and Gerhard Schroeder's Social Democrats claimed the right to form a governing coalition in parliamentary elections in Germany. The iShares MSCI Germany Index Fund last lost 2.3% to $19.27"

This shows that the increases this past month were based on Merkel being elected, if she isn't Germany and EWG are a lost cause.


130 posted on 09/19/2005 8:37:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: anymouse

The legacy of Gore lives on in our lives. World elections and U.S. ones on every level are now contested by liberals if they are the least bit close. And often they succeed in their stalling games and post-election vote-grabbing tactics, as with the so-called current "governor" of Washington state.


131 posted on 09/19/2005 8:50:28 AM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: ukman
I consider this defacement of his picture to be distasteful and also very childish, to say the least.

Well, you'll certainly find childishness on any internet forum of this size. I have been frustrated reading the stupid things said about New Orleans policemen as if they were all looters and thugs. My nephew is a New Orleans cop who stayed on duty and did his job during all of the hurricane and its aftermath. Thanks for the info about Schroder.

132 posted on 09/19/2005 9:02:53 AM PDT by Diva
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Remember US history? John Quincy Adams? If Schroeder manages to keep his post through back-door dealing, it will be John Quincy Adams all over again. "A corrupt alliance." It would be painful for the left, very painful. A side of me hopes he succeeds.

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133 posted on 09/19/2005 9:06:41 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Rome wasn't burned in a day." [This message brought to you by Addams Family supporters of Blanko].)
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To: Diva

It was probably just some dumb kid. Nothing to really worry about.


134 posted on 09/19/2005 9:12:34 AM PDT by ukman
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; All

[Comparing US History with this Schroeder Potential]

[John Quincy] Adams, the candidate of the North, fell behind Gen. Andrew Jackson in both popular and electoral votes, but received more than William H. Crawford and Henry Clay. Since no candidate had a majority of electoral votes, the election was decided among the top three by the House of Representatives. Clay, who favored a program similar to that of Adams, threw his crucial support in the House to the New Englander.

Upon becoming President, Adams appointed Clay as Secretary of State. Jackson and his angry followers charged that a "corrupt bargain" had taken place and immediately began their campaign to wrest the Presidency from Adams in 1828.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ja6.html


135 posted on 09/19/2005 9:15:35 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Rome wasn't burned in a day." [This message brought to you by Addams Family supporters of Blanko].)
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It looks like Germany will be forced into a "Grand Coalition" with the conservatives and the leftists biting the bullet and forming a bipartisan government possibly with neither Merkel or Schroeder as Chancellor. A compromise Prime Minister might be chosen from one of the third parties(Most likely the Free Democrats) or the German equivalent of a "RINO" in the US might be selected.
As of today, right leaning parties have 286 seats and left leaning parties have 328(including the Left Party's 54)
Also, if Schroeder bites his tongue, swallows hard and goes back on his promise to not include the Left Party in a coalition, he can still be Chancellor.
If Merkel bites her tongue, swallows hard, gets down on her knees and begs and looks like a sell out political opportunst, she can possibly get the Green Party in her coalition and become Chancellor. Whew!
The city of Dresden in former East Germany could give Schroeder the seats he needs to tie Merkel when they vote the first week of October. Dresden is like American Republicans hoping for a majority of votes in the District of Columbia.


136 posted on 09/19/2005 9:20:29 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: anymouse
the new Left Party

That's what I'm going to call the extreme Left wing of the DemoRAT part from now on...Kennedy, Kerry, Durbin, Leahy, Shumer, etc.

"When you have a son coming of military age, this makes it even more important to vote for a government that isn't eager to go to war," said Stefan Deutscher, a 38-year-old business consultant voting in Berlin.

How stupid is this person? Didn't Schroeder send German troops to Afghanistan? This person's son could die there just as easily as in Iraq...probably more easily because the UN is probably taking bribes and stealing money for their troop's equipment as we speak there.

137 posted on 09/19/2005 9:40:09 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: ukman

Well, when the Germans and French and other lothesome Europeans stop putting up Bush pee targets in their toilets, we'll talk further, okay?


138 posted on 09/19/2005 9:50:51 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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Bump for later. I want some of those Gore photos for my photo archive!


139 posted on 09/19/2005 9:50:56 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: BushisTheMan

What? Never heard of this.


140 posted on 09/19/2005 9:57:48 AM PDT by ukman
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