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To: Txsleuth
You can't have it both ways.

Either the Republican Party is the conservative party and it follows a policy agenda that limits the size and scope of government or it doesn't. In the last 4-1/2 years we have witnessed an expansion of the welfare and entitlement state not seen in our history. We have a federal bureacracy out of control. The President and the GOP controlled Congress are responsible for this agenda becoming law. Either we hold our elected leaders feet to the fire, or we continue allowing them to get away with anything. For conservatives, the latter isn't an option.

556 posted on 09/18/2005 12:03:56 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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To: Reagan Man
Sometimes you just have to trust your leader,GW. Given the alternative I will take him any day.
569 posted on 09/18/2005 12:12:50 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: Reagan Man

The answer is in what you are saying. Republicans can either move the country to the right over time and continue winning elections, or we can lose elections by demanding we get there immediately. Your choice, but I would rather move slowly than be stopped. For example, it has taken 40 years to reverse public opinion over abortion. Have patience.

Democrats can't win in Colorado? One reason Salazar won in CO is because he appealed to enough voters by appearing to be more conservative than he really is. Now that he's in office, there is nothing we can do about his voting for radical Democrat programs. He, and his kind are trying to move CO a little bit left each and every day. Not a radical swing.


584 posted on 09/18/2005 12:24:03 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: Reagan Man

Are you equating the devastation in the Gulf with welfare programs that have been around since, when, Carter was POTUS??

PUH----LEEZE, you cannot possibly equate these..not at all.

I will tell you the truth...the evening that Pres. Bush gave his speech...I went on a couple of threads...and I was fretting about what he would say. I was concerned that he would announce way too much spending..but two things happened after that to stop ME from being more like YOU.

The first, was another freeper that posted to me that though this freeper backed Bush and backed the war in Iraq, and all of the $$$$ that has been spent there, it would be nice to see that there was equal concern about AMERICANS...and this particular freeper HAD lost most everything in the Hurricane...

After that post...I actually LISTENED carefully to Pres. Bush's speech...and with an open mind---what I heard was hope and determination.

But I also heard a lot of ideas of working with churches and other NON-governmental agencies...and getting private investment in to the region...and other programs...

THEN, the next day, he clarified that the $$$$ would be off-set by Congress.

I don't think even YOU would say that right after 9/11, President Bush handled his presidency like he would have prior to 9/11....and I think this hurricane was just the same...I don't think we can look at any fed spending in this case, like we would your welfare and entitlements of decades and administrations past.

I saw that Rep. Pence...who is leading the group in the HOuse---and who I am a hugh fan of...is raising the possibility of going back and getting rid of the prescription plan, or other things...so there are people that some of us pay attention to that aren't just running willy-nilly around suggesting more ways to spend your money.


619 posted on 09/18/2005 12:51:17 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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