LIVE THREAD - German polls closed: AP: SCHROEDER DEFEATED!

SABC NEWS ^ | September 18, 2005, 08:15

[Michael81Dus]

We´re dead. Ja wir wollten die MwSt um 2% erhöhen, aber dafür die Arbeitlosenversicherung um 2 Punkte (von 6 auf 4) senken.

[Michael81Dus]

A national tragedy, indeed.

A CDU member and campaigner

[Michael81Dus]

There are three lectures:
1. Never trust polls. NEVER!
2. Never praise a scientist for economics or taxes. Never allow independants to be central figures in your campaígn.
3. Never be honest to voters. NEVER!!

[flieger]

Michael, I feel the same way. I just watched Schroeder on "Berlin Mitte" and I have some concerns about his mental health.
Anyway, this is nuts. I didn't know we had THAT many idiots living in Germany.

[Michael81Dus]

I didn´t believe it too. It´s a disaster. A catastrophe, a national tragedy. I´m stunned. I feel like being hit by several bullets.

I was counting votes when I heard the radio. I drunk a bottle of wine. Germany is dead. What has happened to these damned people? Yesterday night, when I stopped campaigning, the feeling was good, the people were in favor of a change. And now that. The CDU lost 2% to the FDP (no problem), 2% to the SPD and 1,5% each to the Commies and Greens according to the last polls. How could that happen?? We all don´t know yet.

Within a few days.... unbelievable. Unbelievable.

[Michael81Dus]

Yeah, even the journalists think - like us - that his mental health is not ok. But let´s wait whether we´re really the biggest party in the new parliament. What happened to the wind of change, to the accuracy of the polls? We campaigned well (except of Kirchhof). The people are just plain stupid, that´s all.

[Bigg Red]

Thanks for the information. Let's hope that Merkel does well -- for the sake of your country and mine.

[An.American.Expatriate]

Hi Michael!!

Been following this off an on this evening - it doesn't look good at all - I have been afraid of this result all along! It seems that Schröder's Master Plan worked out just fine - of course hwe had the advantage of starting the campaign LONG before he even announced his plan to purposly loose the vote of confidence in parlaiment - I still fail to understand how your courts allowed that!!

Oh well - four more years of ultra left politics (I don't believe Munterfehring's denunciations of the Linkspartie for a minute!!) - hopefully Germany will fall so far, that even the most retarded leftist will realize that a mistake was made - I only hope it won't be too late to save the country!!

Godspeed to you my friend!!

[Heatseeker]

Michael - just coming in late, so far it sounds good. Do you have a link for online streaming of TV coverage? I don't care about language right now, I can read the graphics and the expressions on the newspeoples' faces. ;)

[americanbychoice2]

I am truly sorry for you and especially Germany about this miserable outcome.
As I have said before, never say never and
desperate people do desperate things.
Common logic and sense can't follow.
Germany will have to accept what they themselves have voted on.
By the way, good idea, I need a drink after that desaster as well.

[Heatseeker]

Never mind, just caught up on the thread. :(

[flieger]

The people are just plain stupid, that´s all.

That is my impression too.

With Kirchhof I am not so sure. I think if he had been explained a little more and defended against the SPD lies a little better, he might have been good for the party. But then again, what do I know about what is going on in the heads of the welfare-addicts.

Maybe Stoiber was right. The election is being decided the east. Let's keep Saxony and get rid of the rest. Saarland goes to France, they can have it.

[BMCDA]

There are three lectures:
1. Never trust polls. NEVER!
2. Never praise a scientist for economics or taxes. Never allow independants to be central figures in your campaígn.
3. Never be honest to voters. NEVER!!

LOL!! I don't know but maybe you have already read this (obviously tongue in cheek) article by Richard Herzinger in "Die Welt": Nur so gewinnen Sie

[Heatseeker]

I am just an ignorant Yank but it seems to me there is danger that Schröder will demand everything of value if there is a grand coalition; threatening that if he does not get his way, he will "give in" to the left of his own party and form a governing coalition with the Greens and Linkspartei.

[Michael81Dus]

No I didn´t read it before. But IT AIN´T FUNNY!!

[Michael81Dus]

We need to analyze it. Looks like we lost everywhere the needed 4%, but especially in North-Rhine Westphalia and the East. HOW DUMB THE PEOPLE ARE.

[BMCDA]

Do you have a link for online streaming of TV coverage?

Try this: http://www.n-tv.de/61215.html. The connection is a bit slow at the moment (for obvious reasons).

[Michael81Dus]

Yep. :( is the right impression. NOBODY expected that the polls were so wrong. But still, it´s likely that Merkel will be Chancellor. Let´s remember why we have had the early elections: Schröder officially seeked new trust from the voters after the lost NRW-state-election - and now he celebrates as the champion!! He really lost common sense - that´s what the commentators say at least.

I never though this could happen. I´m impressed that the hopes of the SPD-guys came true. This is so unreal for me.
*shaking my head*

Good night you all. I hope that we are at least the biggest party in the new Bundestag, so that we have good chances that Merkel will move to the Willy-Brandt-Allee 1 in Berlin. :-/

[Michael81Dus]

WTF has happened????

[Just mythoughts]

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