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To: familyop
I think for some reason you have got me all wrong.
 
India do not support Iran for anything. For us Iran does not matter. My point is that US is asking for too high a price for whatever little it is willing to offer by way of "alliance".
 
The Iranian leaders shout for the destruction of Israel and the USA.
 
Not very different from Mushy threatening to use nuke against India and moreover they do have the means unlike Iran. That however never seems to be much of a concern for the US.
 
India do not support Iran for anything. For us Iran does not matter. My point is that US is asking for too high a price for whatever it is willing to offer by way of "alliance".
 
It's up to you and India. Either join us, or join the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and its military adjuncts. We in the USA will not continue to feed technology through India to evil regimes, each of which wants to eventually be the prevailing empire.

And contrary to propaganda in some small "elite" British circles (especially some businessmen) that we, as they, entertain desires of "empire," we certainly do not. If India would rather fight it out later with its preferred friends in the east (the mullahs, for example) for a chance at ruling the world, that's her business. We can let that happen, with the exception, of course, that no other nation will antagonistically touch countries like Taiwan, Australia, Japan, New Zealand or other of our Pacific Rim allies without paying a miserable price.
 
None of all that you are saying has anything to do with the point I am trying to make. We have been fighting terrorism for far longer than you have been. Its for you to join us after you have abandoned allies like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

49 posted on 09/18/2005 1:52:16 PM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Gengis Khan
"None of all that you are saying has anything to do with the point I am trying to make. We have been fighting terrorism for far longer than you have been. Its for you to join us after you have abandoned allies like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia."

Your words also come from Russian parties that send various parts of nuclear weapons to Iran and Syria in cooperation with China. Those parties would like to see a big fight between India and Pakistan. They appeal to understandable emotions and history in India. But Pakistan is very militarily weak in comparison to Iran and China (which country's PLA would like to own more ocean routes in the region). Why tie-up expensive resources in a fight with Pakistan sooner rather than later?

Our leaders have already joined your leaders. See the efforts with Musharraf to prevent war during this time of building for India. At the same time, BTW, I disagree with some of the tactical directions of our US State Department.

Would you rather that Musharraf's internal opposition were in control of Pakistan? Would you rather that King Faad's old internal, radical opposition were in control of Saudi Arabia? Do you really want India to dedicate resources to wars with those countries?

If we were so like the old British Empire, we would want to play countries against one another for our own gains. If we were so like the old British Empire, we would allow India to go to war with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. What would countries like Iran do in that case? They would join the fight against India. We in the USA would suddenly have a very loyal ally in India. But we don't do things that way. If we befriend India in a closer way, I do not want to do so to her detriment.

We don't want India to get involved in unnecessary diversionary wars that would cost India defense resources. But if India really makes a choice to do so, we cannot stop it.

I'm not a diplomat. I was once a soldier with low rank and am among the least important of Americans. I'm only a history buff and don't even have a university degree. ...only trying to help.
52 posted on 09/18/2005 2:41:51 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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