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Guilty on all chargesJury rejects self-defense, convicts Vang of killing hunters
Milwaukee Journa;/Sentinel ^ | 16 Sep 2005 | Tom Held

Posted on 09/17/2005 11:26:01 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray

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To: basil

I think your state law even has rules for an express lane to "Old Smoky" on the books for crimes like this. Too bad Wisconsin isn't so enlightened.


21 posted on 09/17/2005 12:13:00 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
It's over, and Vang is going to jail for the rest of his life.

Nope it ain't over. Now every bleeding heart red dopier diaper baby lawyer will come out from under the rocks they hide under filling endless appeals. So will all of the Silly-Sheehappless protesters screaming racism both on and off college campuses.

22 posted on 09/17/2005 12:16:48 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: DTogo
tall, skinny white guy <>tall, skinny, horse faced, white guy

There that's better

23 posted on 09/17/2005 12:18:56 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
Mass murdering psychopath Chai Soua Vang, not so brave after shooting unarmed civilians in the back.

What bothers me most is the complete lack of remorse by him or his creepy family.


24 posted on 09/17/2005 12:18:58 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

I believe they did. They admitted that Robert got hostile but did not use racial labels. They were questioned during the trila about the labels "mud duck" and "tree rat" (IIRC). They said "mud duck" was term for Minnesota hunters in Wisconsin, "tree rat" was for one hunter using another hunter's perch without permission.


25 posted on 09/17/2005 12:31:24 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA and SAS) WI Hunter Shootings: Vang: GUILTY Nine Times - First Degree)
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To: Rakkasan1

You are right! they have been extremely quiet on this-

My wife is a probation officer -spousal abuse is rampant in
various immigrant communities- they are treated different-
given lighter sentences (no felonies on record) and this
guy should have been on probation for "waving a pistol" at
his wife (plus he had other trespassing violations)-

I think he got pissed when the land owners took down his
license number- he would probably have been fined and
possibly had future hunting privs revoked.

the # 1 chilling statement:when Vang returned to the initial
wiped out hunting party.. encountered the wounded Willers..
and said" what -your not dead? " then opened fire a second
time - willers got off 1 shot and vang ran away.


26 posted on 09/17/2005 12:47:42 PM PDT by mj1234
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Imagine if it was the other way around - a white hunter gunning down 8 Asians. Every Lieberal maroon in the western world would be howling for Federal charges to be brought.

Vang should be charged and prosecuted under Federal civil rights law. But he won't.

If ever there was a "hate" crime, listening to the crap spewing from the mouths of his family members convinces me that this is one.


27 posted on 09/17/2005 12:54:14 PM PDT by 43north (If you're not liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you're still liberal at 40 you have no brain.)
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To: 43north
Imagine if it was the other way around - a white hunter gunning down 8 Asians. Every Lieberal maroon in the western world would be howling for Federal charges to be brought. Vang should be charged and prosecuted under Federal civil rights law. But he won't. If ever there was a "hate" crime, listening to the crap spewing from the mouths of his family members convinces me that this is one.

Perfect observation.

28 posted on 09/17/2005 12:58:06 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: FormerACLUmember

Imagine what would have happened if he had done it in the name of God.


29 posted on 09/17/2005 1:06:13 PM PDT by Thebaddog (How's yer dogs?)
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To: Ladysmith
"mud duck" and "tree rat"

OH, NO....NOT THAT!

30 posted on 09/17/2005 1:14:32 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
I imagine that law enforcement/cold case guys are now taking another look at hunter deaths in the local regions near where these victims were shot.

They most certainly have some forensic evidence now that they didn't have before.

Leni

31 posted on 09/17/2005 1:14:42 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

I doubt that this was racial on the part of the hunters.

This guy is a murderer and got what he deserved by killing all of those people.


32 posted on 09/17/2005 1:59:52 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

The single biggest argument against vang is the fact he shot them in the back as they fled.

Standing a tree stand he was as vulerable as he would ever be. If one of them wanted him dead he'd be dead. They apparently didn't. They apparently were in hasty retreat.

They were apparently hunted down and killed.

Now Vang will have a life in the big house. One can only regret we don't still hang people.


33 posted on 09/17/2005 2:23:20 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: teawithmisswilliams
I see no evidence that he has a conscience.

I mean "conscience" in a broader sense, more like someone is watching and making a list of the good and bad things that you do (Santa?). Probably more like Karma then any active voice giving guidance, I know this POS has no inherent sense of right & wrong. I just have to hope that someone is keeping score on this bad apple.

Regards,
GtG

34 posted on 09/17/2005 3:07:57 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
Even the criminal element has certain standards in Wisconsin!)

Yes, and I'm sure Wisconsin prisons have a lot of big, mean white guys who know all about what Vang did, and are waiting for him. But due process of law is better. If you want to execute a man, pass the right laws and sentence him to death in open court, where the process can be examined. To do otherwise, however satisfying (and I can't pretend not to have mixed feelings re: Vang's probable fate), compromises the rule of law and puts us on a dangerous, slipperly slope. What if liberals started removing dissent by falsely accusing conservatives of relatively minor crimes, and then setting them up to get killed in jail? If not in the name of justice, then just for the sake of our own necks, we shouldn't go there.

As for Dahmer... it's reported that he converted to Christianity before his death. (I won't get into the connection between cannibalism and transubstantion except to reverently hope that he finally found for real in Christ, what he wrongly and vainly sought through his crimes.) Of course religion isn't a get-out-of-jail-free card, nor should it be, but perhaps he might have done some good behind bars if he'd been allowed to live out his sentence.

35 posted on 09/17/2005 6:06:44 PM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: Rytwyng
But due process of law is better.

Glad that you posted this.

You are correct, but I am not sure that when you mentioned liberals setting conservatives up, that this is not already happening.

36 posted on 09/18/2005 2:33:12 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
What do you expect from a bunch of Liberals in Wisconsin?
37 posted on 09/18/2005 2:38:09 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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