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This is a good thing. Drug users in the military are a bad mix. They tend to have bad attitudes and are a serious risk to others in that kind of environment.
1 posted on 09/17/2005 8:29:20 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
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Drug users in the military are a bad mix.
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Exactly - this must be a zero-tolerance situation.
They carry too much responsibility.


2 posted on 09/17/2005 8:31:56 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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A friend, academy grad, got the boot for DUI.


3 posted on 09/17/2005 8:33:34 AM PDT by cynicom
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We have enough drug addicts already in our society.

This is the long-term legacy of the 60's. All one ever heard was that drugs were just a-okay. "Drugs, sex and rock'Nrol" was the mantra of the 60's.
Now we have a bumper crop of DRUG ADDICTS, HIV/AIDS and (C)RAP "music." What a charming legacy.

Drugs will be our ruin.

4 posted on 09/17/2005 8:39:21 AM PDT by starfish923
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Commanding officers not only are giving the boot to those who violate anti-drug use and alcohol abuse polices, but they're doing so in the quickest and cheapest way possible' through the administrative separation process, Kapuschansky said.

who, if anybody, is booting out the commanding officers ?
5 posted on 09/17/2005 8:43:28 AM PDT by stylin19a (In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
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. . . alcohol abuse . . .They’re weeding out the “fungus” that threatens to infect the service’s “garden of beautiful flowers,”

Yeah, the North would have finished the Civil War sooner without that ole drunk U.S. Grant.

Hael, Texas coulda won the War of Independence right there at the Alamo if it hadn't been for that ole drunk Sam Houston.

And Pappy Boyington, guess the Navy and Marines coulda kept the Japanese out of the skies without that sot.

Yeah, let's not spoil them dainty Navy flowers

6 posted on 09/17/2005 8:46:25 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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"This is a good thing. Drug users in the military are a bad mix"
Sun Tzu taught the contrary: a good general takes along and makes use of all kinds of people: clever and stupid, brave and cowardly - but has different uses for each of them: clever ones for council; brave ones for fighting; cowards when the things become hairy - they tend to be good at extricating themselves out of danger; and idiots were valuable because they were not afraid of death. Carrying this line of thought further, there must be some non-trivial use even for drug abusers.
10 posted on 09/17/2005 8:55:12 AM PDT by GSlob
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While I completely agree that drugs and the military don't mix, I don't believe in zero tolerance application of the law (at least as applies to junior enlisted).

One of my best Soldiers came up hot in a drug test for cocaine. He had gotten a little too friendly with a girl whom he should have stayed away from and she convinced him to use the stuff, something he normally would never do. He was caught, nearly kicked out of the Army, and punished by a nearly maxed-out Field Grade Article 15. He paid the price, he learned from his mistake, and he's still one of the best Soldiers in my PLT, and I've never had another problem with him since.

Another case, one my Squad Leaders, as a young Soldier, came up hot for marijuana in a drug test. He was also nearly thrown out. Now, he is one the best NCOs I have ever seen, and a tremendous asset to my PLT and the Company.

For NCOs and Officers, "zero tolerance" is necessary, but the younger Soldiers/Airmen/Sailors/Marines should really be looked at on a case-by-case basis, with the Commander delivering discretionary punishments in each.


12 posted on 09/17/2005 8:59:17 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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They’re weeding out the “fungus” that threatens to infect the service’s “garden of beautiful flowers,” said Lt. Cmdr. Tony Kapuschansky

garden of beautiful flowers ?

That doesn't sound like something a straight guy would say.

13 posted on 09/17/2005 9:01:58 AM PDT by Freebird Forever (A thousand Bravehearts are better than one)
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Back in the early 80s there were pot-partys on base...a legacy of the 60s NCOs, it amazing what went on back then....This is of course anecnotal from what I saw when Air Force and Army mixed...


21 posted on 09/17/2005 9:26:51 AM PDT by dakine
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BTTT


24 posted on 09/17/2005 9:45:08 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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Our Navy is the tip of our spear, with our Marines the serrations.

We cannot surivive with future politicians allowed to remain in the service once discovered.

31 posted on 09/17/2005 10:07:07 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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Not supporting / encouraging drug / alcohol abuse, but how does this rack up against don't ask don't tell for sodomy?


40 posted on 09/17/2005 2:39:41 PM PDT by Casekirchen (If allah is just another name for the Judeo-Christian God, why do the islamics pray to a rock?)
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They’re weeding out the “fungus” that threatens to infect the service’s “garden of beautiful flowers,” said Lt. Cmdr. Tony Kapuschansky

I have $50 that says "beautiful flowers" Kapuschansky is a beneficiary of Don't Ask Don't Tell.

50 posted on 01/10/2006 10:18:25 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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Our TOP was the biggest drunk in the company. Made about 30% of the morning assemblies.

Drank with him once at the NCO club and he was great, but the next day, he must have been hungover. Always a mean SOB during the day. Life of the party in the evenings.

He did 3 tours on Nam so no one said a word, not even the CO. Since we worked near the E/W German border, we used to say that if the Russkies came, we'd stick with him, drunk or sober.


54 posted on 01/10/2006 10:48:36 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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