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Katrina: What Happened When (Good Timeline from FactCheck)
Fact Check ^ | 9/16/05

Posted on 09/16/2005 12:14:55 PM PDT by areafiftyone

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1 posted on 09/16/2005 12:14:57 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

Thank you. I'm going to pass this info along in e-mail.


2 posted on 09/16/2005 12:17:56 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: areafiftyone

This is a superb timeline!

Also, the Chair of the ATRW thread published a timeline that explains in concise detail what happened and when and why the federal government was precluded from going into New Orleans until specifically requested by the Governor.

This was published on ATRW today and is just fabulous.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1485619/posts


3 posted on 09/16/2005 12:18:03 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: zot

FYI ping


4 posted on 09/16/2005 12:18:51 PM PDT by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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To: areafiftyone

Thanks for posting this!


5 posted on 09/16/2005 12:19:41 PM PDT by Fury
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To: areafiftyone
Left out a number of facts, such as Bush's phone call to Blanco and Nagel to evacuate 2 days prior to land fall. Seems "Fact Check" is more interested in promoting the Leftist Bush Hate agenda. So much for "Fact Check" as a credible source.
6 posted on 09/16/2005 12:20:15 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Republican leaders learn as opposed to the Dems leaders who are "stuck on stupid.")
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To: areafiftyone

Time uncertain - Blanco calls Bush, saying, "Mr. President, we need your help. We need everything you've got." Bush later assures her that "help is on the way."

Another fraudlent statement. CNN pinned down Blanco that she asked WED the 31st. Another "Fact check" lie.


7 posted on 09/16/2005 12:22:07 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Republican leaders learn as opposed to the Dems leaders who are "stuck on stupid.")
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To: areafiftyone

Perhaps I missed it... but didn't GWB plead with LA's Governor on SATURDAY to evacuate the city?


8 posted on 09/16/2005 12:24:27 PM PDT by StoneGiant (Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Yep this thing is BS


9 posted on 09/16/2005 12:24:51 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Peach

Good bush-Bashing first draft for creating a real timeline


10 posted on 09/16/2005 12:26:54 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Peach

Or is it Bash-bushing?


11 posted on 09/16/2005 12:27:52 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Fury; areafiftyone; Peach; Dr. Scarpetta
No mention of the Bush Admins Request, and Gov Blanco's refusal,to surrender authority to the Feds. No mention of Bush's meeting with Blanco and Nagel where Blanco turned down Bush's offer for immediate deployment of Reg US Military to NO. No mention that the initial Armed NG sent to NO amounted to 300 troops. "Fact Check"? Not hardly.
12 posted on 09/16/2005 12:28:14 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Republican leaders learn as opposed to the Dems leaders who are "stuck on stupid.")
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To: areafiftyone

Most idiots out there that are whining about this expected Bush to be able to snap his fingers and all hte rescue workers would've been there already.


13 posted on 09/16/2005 12:28:29 PM PDT by kx9088
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To: uncbob

Sunday, August 28, 2005; Posted: 11:47 a.m. EDT | CNN's David Mattingly, Susan Candiotti, Jacqui Jeras and Rob Marciano contributed to this report.



Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that it was President Bush that had called and urged the state to order the evacuation


14 posted on 09/16/2005 12:30:10 PM PDT by uncbob
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If you have any prloblems with their timeline I think you could send the correction to Fact Check. They usually print out corrections as they come along. They just deal with facts most of the the time as they can get them. So I think if we sent them some new facts or corrected ones they will reprint it.


15 posted on 09/16/2005 12:30:36 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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Eventually, engineers will find five separate places where concrete floodwalls gave way. They will still be debating and studying the causes of the failures two weeks after the storm.

So they still don't KNOW why the levees broke.

16 posted on 09/16/2005 12:31:15 PM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS--NOLA is just the latest example)
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To: StoneGiant
Perhaps I missed it... but didn't GWB plead with LA's Governor on SATURDAY to evacuate the city?

See my post 14 quoting CNN
17 posted on 09/16/2005 12:31:20 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: areafiftyone
So I think if we sent them some new facts or corrected ones they will reprint it.

True..but you're going to have to source it.

The claim that "the President declared the area a national disaster area before the state of Louisiana did" appears to be based on an erroneous statement made by an unnamed Bush administration official, as reported in the Washington Post (emphasis ours):

Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday [2 August], the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.

The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.

A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil disturbances under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to unify the chains of command that are split among the president, the Louisiana governor and the New Orleans mayor.

Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for assistance until Wednesday [31 August], three state and federal officials said. As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said.

18 posted on 09/16/2005 12:38:46 PM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS--NOLA is just the latest example)
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They just deal with facts most of the the time as they can get them

Fairly obvious they did not. The spin on this is all Bush bashing. The constant harping on Bush "saying only 113 words" etc. Meanwhile NO fact about what Nagin and Blanco are up to at that time. Given their claims to have "researched" the "Facts" yet over looked dozens of published items I know about would indicated either gross incompetence or deliberate falsehoods. Sorry they are the once claiming to be "fact checking" when they fail to do an even marginally balanced job, one has ever right to doubt the veracity of ALL their claims.

19 posted on 09/16/2005 12:39:15 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Republican leaders learn as opposed to the Dems leaders who are "stuck on stupid.")
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To: MNJohnnie

Thought the timeline left a some important details like in the beginning nothing is said about several environmental lawsuits followed the COE analysis to shore up the levees.


20 posted on 09/16/2005 12:39:29 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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