Posted on 09/15/2005 9:28:57 AM PDT by qam1
Uh OH - I had a similar response - it was not met very graciously.
Moral Absolutes Ping.
Get rid of the family and get rid of human civilization. Or that which makes it human and civilized.* It's that simple.
Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.
*Disagree? Take a look at what happened in NO after the 'cane. Note that among black people in the US, approximately 80 (yes, eighty percent) of babies are born to mothers and fathers who are NOT married (to each other). Illegitimate. Destruction of families causes destroyed individuals.
Absurd. Immigrant families are the largest growing segment of housing buyers. And they are having tons of babies while white GenX'ers are having abortions. Those GenX'ers will spend their lonely, divorced retirements childless and alone, full of regrets, while they also lose political and economic influence to the immigrant groups that replace them. Demographics is power. The idiots quoted in this article will simply disappear. They are not part of the future.
I was just shy of 38 and my husband was 43 when our daughter was born...........
Thank you ladies.
You are 2 FReepers that I have always adored. :-D
Likewise, my FRiend.
Until the immigrant groups adapt the same childbearing patterns of the natives. That's true for second generation immigrants in the US.
Ruthy meet Gabz. Gabz meet Ruthy.
Homeschooling is not for everyone. And for many public schools are a necessity. I'm fortunate enough that I live in a county with an outstanding public school system.
You do what's the best for your family. Homeschooling works for some. Not for others.
It's just that simple. And anyone who doesn't see that should have to stick their nose in a circle on the chalkboard.
"the boomers were great supporters of mum, dad and the kids"
Boy, Australia must be VASTLY different from USuns!
I don't think my comment to you was any more condescending than your comment to AdamSelene235 was. People with six figure incomes and no children pay a boatload in taxes, a good chunk of which goes to public schools for other people's children. Your comment to him that "You must have a lot of expenses" followed by boasting about all you do on less than $40,000 a year, sounded pretty snide, considering that he IS paying a good chunk of change to subsidize your public-schooled child. I commend you for not clawing even more out of taxpayer funds, but it's intellectually dishonest to claim to be self-supporting when you are availing yourself of more taxpayer-funded services than you pay for.
There are lots of arrangements that work. Grandparents living with and helping raise their unmarried adult children's children is one. I know of a a pair of identical twin women, both physicians, who have adopted two little girls, and have a nice stable financially self-supporting family, so sibling-based families can obviously work. And single parents who achieve real financial security before having children, can do fine too, either living on their own, or sharing housing and childcare with one or more other single parents (or single non-parents). Frankly, I think that relationships that are NOT based on romantic love are inherently more stable than those which are.
My father was quite alright, and there is nothing about his work that caused any dysfunction -- in my estimation he did a pretty good job actually. If there was a division of loyalty, he managed it pretty well such that it was kept below the noise floor from my perspective. Your presumption is incorrect.
This would probably be true if one has lived alone most of their life, but there is an increasingly large segment of the population under 40 that has lived with non-relative roommates a significant portion of their lives (myself included). In some parts of the country, this is almost normal. Originally driven by economic realities, it has flourished because it creates a de facto family for people who either do not live close to their biological families or aren't psychologically/emotionally close to their biological families.
"Those GenX'ers will spend their lonely, divorced retirements childless and alone, full of regrets, while they also lose political and economic influence to the immigrant groups that replace them. Demographics is power. The idiots quoted in this article will simply disappear. They are not part of the future."
Hear, hear. And that goes too, sadly, for many of the posters on this thread. Too many libertarians on FR these days!
Ah, so now "alternative" relationships are even preferable to traditional ones. Gotcha. That's all I needed to know right there.
Unfortunately, it is unambiguously almost the worst time by most other important metrics. Our environment is evolving faster than our biology.
You probably didn't even figure the problem of parents on taxpayer-funded welfare into your neat little equation.
Lots. Back of the envelope, about 80% of the atheists I know (and being where I am, I know many) are married. However, less than half of those have children, though a few of those have several children.
As a general observation, their marriages seem to do pretty well actually, though most took at least a few years before getting married in the first place.
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