To: conserv13
Jesus did say the law doesn't change, but some of those laws were made obsolete by His appearance, in other words, the law was fulfilled
48 posted on
09/14/2005 7:22:44 PM PDT by
Right in Wisconsin
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To: Right in Wisconsin
Jesus came and 'fulfilled' the laws applying to menstruant women? Puh-leez!!
49 posted on
09/14/2005 7:30:40 PM PDT by
hlmencken3
("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
To: Right in Wisconsin
Jesus did say the law doesn't change, but some of those laws were made obsolete by His appearance, in other words, the law was fulfilled
Since when does "fulfilled" = "obsolete"? He told you NOT to think he came to abolish the Law. 'Fulfilled' in Matt 19:17 is pleroo. 'Abolish/destroy' is kataluo. Pleroo is the common word used to describe what a Torah teacher of the time did. Their explanation of the Law either made it stand up (i.e. pleroo) or their explanation made if fall down (i.e. kataluo). In other words, he came not to destroy it, but to make it stand up and be understood.
I always laugh at the attempts to take the words of Matt 5:17-19 and turn them around to say the very thing that they do not. Fulfill does not equal "to make obsolete".
Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the Law till all is fulfilled. Matt 5:17-19
The fact is that supercessionism and dispensationalism are theological devices invented to explain away these very words. Someone had to come up with a REASON that 'Christianity' had defined itself as OTHER than Judaism. Someone had to explain how in the Second Century suddenly it was OK to not keep the "Jewish Sabbath" (look in Lev 23 and Is 66 and justify the non-biblical term "Jewish Sabbath").
60 posted on
09/15/2005 4:34:50 AM PDT by
safisoft
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