Kabbalist Urges Jews to Israel Ahead of Upcoming Disasters

Israel National News ^ | Sept. 14, 2005

[marty60]

this means Christ is coming back in all his glory and wrath.

[Praxeus]

"Actually, the Maronite and Assyrian Christians in Lebanon claim to be Phoenecians"

And I know you do not believe them ;)

The Kingdom was initially divided for a time under David. Avner was instrumental in bringing resolution to the matter. True the division was the house of Saul as opposed to the house of David. So, there was a division.

In any case, please note I said from the "time of David". I intended that era.

The usage of the term "Jew" for all Israel first occurs in the Text during Ahaz's (Hezekiah's father) reign, which was imediately before Hezekiah's reign. If it was in usage at that time, then it is only logical to conclude it predated that time in some effect.

Now, of course, we must date the penning of 2 Kings if we wish for external critical evidence.. but internally, the Text has it just before the time of Hezekiah, and just before the carrying away of Israel to Assyria.

I mostly agree with your point 2. Although I would suggest that Samaritans intermarried with gentiles whereas the "Jews" did not.

[hlmencken3]

In the absence of reasonable proof of Jewish maternity, conversion to Judaism is necessary, even for descendants of 'lost' tribes.

[safisoft]

No I don't think so. The old covenants, (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, et. al.) are still in effect.

And Moses? The point is, 'Christianity' has a LONGGG history of declaring the Torah of Moses as obsolete. Granted, the original First Century ones did not, but the certainly did from the Second Century on.

[safisoft]

I think that all Christians follow some sort of replacement theology, though not all to it's logical extreme, agreed.

No, there is a significant group of Christians that do not hold to Replacement Theology (i.e. Supercessionism). The vast majority of Evangelicals (i.e. conservative protestants) hold to what is called "Dispensational Theology" which does NOT believe in the replacement of Israel. That is why that group is so Israel-friendly.

There are smaller groups that do not hold to dispensationalism or supercessionism. If you were to do a population division it is probably 60/40 dispensationalist/supercessionist.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Good post. I had a great aunt who said the Irish(us)were one of the 12 lost tribes of Israel. I've come to see where devout Roman Catholicism and Judaism have close ties, in many instances.

Bottom line: The Muslim extremists(just adding that to be pc)want us all dead. Catholic, Jew, Southern Baptist-Missouri Synod, Mormon.....we're dead.

[Praxeus]

Good post.

Incidentally, dispensationalism found it's place (hints of anyway) in very early Christianity (33ce-250ce) and then in contemporary Christianity (roughly around 1800ce-present).

The worst Christian persecution against Jewry is found in the intervening millenia.

May be coincidental, but it would seem as though eras where dispensationalism thrived, so did well treatment of the Jews.

[Right in Wisconsin]

Jesus did say the law doesn't change, but some of those laws were made obsolete by His appearance, in other words, the law was fulfilled

[hlmencken3]

Jesus came and 'fulfilled' the laws applying to menstruant women? Puh-leez!!

[tuckrdout]

Thank you for clearing that up. I was wondering.

I know that what this man said, is true.

[japaneseghost]

http://www.neshamaart.com/Newsletter/rkaduri.html


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German Jewish rabbis say that Sephardic rabbis are well-known for proclaiming that a Messiah is about to arrive, so don't believe them. There are many examples of this in Jewish history.

However, given what Rabbi Kaduri has stated more than once, I'd reckon that the higher-up rabbis in Israel have someone already picked out to be their "Messiah."

[tuckrdout]

Got that a little wrong.

You referenced Zechiah 12:10

[Praxeus]

"Jesus came and 'fulfilled' the laws applying to menstruant women? Puh-leez!!"

Well, it's an ordinance. Dealing particularly with being unclean.

Prophesied here: Zechariah 13:1

In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

Explained here:

Ephesians 2

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

I suppose it is no more of a stretch to "fulfill" a feminine condition than to make a proscription against it in the first place :^)

[hlmencken3]

Where's the headache guy? Thread hijacked agin!

[kalee]

mark for later reading

[sheik yerbouty]

To all who have ears..

[Dark Skies]

To all who have ears...

Yup! I agree with you there, Sheik!

It is coming soon.

[Praxeus]

LoL..

Ok, Ok.. didn't mean to, it just kinda drifted that way.

I'll bug out.

[JudgemAll]

Jesus simply meant that Kosher (clean hands) don't make one holy, but good heart, good faith and holiness with God helps one achieve Kosher.

It is too hard to repent. Someone who loves you must do that for you, must apply the law for you. Jesus did that.

[safisoft]

Jesus did say the law doesn't change, but some of those laws were made obsolete by His appearance, in other words, the law was fulfilled

Since when does "fulfilled" = "obsolete"? He told you NOT to think he came to abolish the Law. 'Fulfilled' in Matt 19:17 is pleroo. 'Abolish/destroy' is kataluo. Pleroo is the common word used to describe what a Torah teacher of the time did. Their explanation of the Law either made it stand up (i.e. pleroo) or their explanation made if fall down (i.e. kataluo). In other words, he came not to destroy it, but to make it stand up and be understood.

I always laugh at the attempts to take the words of Matt 5:17-19 and turn them around to say the very thing that they do not. Fulfill does not equal "to make obsolete".

Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the Law till all is fulfilled. Matt 5:17-19

The fact is that supercessionism and dispensationalism are theological devices invented to explain away these very words. Someone had to come up with a REASON that 'Christianity' had defined itself as OTHER than Judaism. Someone had to explain how in the Second Century suddenly it was OK to not keep the "Jewish Sabbath" (look in Lev 23 and Is 66 and justify the non-biblical term "Jewish Sabbath").