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27% Will Definitely Vote for Hillary (Guiliani 42%-Hillary 39%)
Rasmussen Report ^

Posted on 09/14/2005 8:53:19 AM PDT by Alex Marko

September 7, 2005--Twenty-seven percent (27%) of Americans say they will definitely vote for Hillary Clinton if she runs for President in 2008. The latest Rasmussen Reports poll for the Hillary Meter finds that 38% will definitely vote against her.

Those figures are little changed from our last poll, but are a bit more pessimistic for the former First Lady than poll results from earlier in the year. Related surveys have shown Clinton leading Condoleezza Rice and Laura Bush in hypothetical 2008 match-ups while trailing Rudy Giuliani and John McCain.

Twenty-eight percent (28%) of Americans say New York's junior Senator is "very likely" to win the Democratic nomination in 2008. That's up from 24% two weeks ago but down from 33% a month ago. (review trends).

Forty-seven percent (47%) say that Clinton is politically liberal. That's unchanged from two weeks ago and up from 42% a month ago. Twenty-nine percent (29%) view her as politically moderate while 7% say conservative.

Demographic details are available for Premium Members.

Collectively, today’s Hillary Meter places Senator Clinton a net 57 points to the left of the nation's political center. Two weeks ago, she was 56 points to the left of center.

The political center is calculated by subtracting the number of liberals from the number of conservatives among the general public (35% conservative, 18% liberal for a net +17). For the Senator, 7% conservative minus 47% liberal equals a net minus 40. The minus 39 reading for Senator Clinton is 57 points away from the plus 17 reading for the general public.

Hillary's reputation as a polarizing figure remains intact. Nationally, 40% of Americans have a favorable opinion of Hillary while 41% hold an unfavorable view.

The Hillary Meter is a twice monthly measure of Senator Hillary Clinton's effort to move to the political center. The next update is scheduled for Wednesday, September 21. For as long as the former First Lady is a viable candidate for the White House, Rasmussen Reports will monitor public perceptions of her political ideology. _____________________________________________________

Election 2008: Giuliani 42% Clinton 39%

Survey of 1,000 Adults

August 29-30, 2005

Election 2008 John McCain (R) 40% Hillary Clinton (D) 38%

RasmussenReports.com

Election 2008 Rudy Giuliani (R) 42% Hillary Clinton (D) 39%

RasmussenReports.com

September 2, 2005--In hypothetical match-ups for the 2008 Presidential Election, Republicans Rudy Giuliani and John McCain both are essentially even with Democrat Hillary Clinton.

A Rasmussen Reports survey finds Giuliani leading Clinton 42% to 39% and McCain ahead of the Democrat 40% to 38%. An earlier survey found Clinton leading Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

The survey highlights a major difficulty facing McCain as he seeks the GOP nomination--he's not very popular in his own party. Just 48% of Republicans have a favorable opinion of McCain while 27% have an unfavorable view.

By way of comparison, among Republicans, Giuliani is viewed favorably by a 63% to 17% margin.

Still, in an indication that Senator Clinton is the defining candidate for this poll, 72% of Republicans say that they would vote for McCain. Seventy-three percent (73%) say they would vote for Giuliani. __________________________________________________


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; democrat; election; guiliani2008; hillary; hillary2008; hillarymeter; president; whitehouse
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1 posted on 09/14/2005 8:53:27 AM PDT by Alex Marko
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To: Alex Marko

WE need A REAL Conservative in 08.Mike Pence is the Guy.Restart the Reagan Revolution.


2 posted on 09/14/2005 8:54:25 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Alex Marko

27% will definetely vote for here, and 29% consider here a moderate.

How much you wanna bet the 1st group is a subset of the 2nd?


3 posted on 09/14/2005 8:56:44 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Gipper08

George Allen is the only realistic shot for a conservative. But Guiliani would definately stand the best shot for the GOP in 2008, that is undeniable.


4 posted on 09/14/2005 8:56:50 AM PDT by Alex Marko
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To: Gipper08
Giuliani or Hillary???? A nightmare-choice in being!
5 posted on 09/14/2005 8:57:01 AM PDT by alessandrofiaschi (Is Roberts really a conservative?)
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To: Alex Marko

Remind everybody that this is MRS WILLIAM JEFFERSON BLYTHE CLINTON!

Not only will it put her into the proper perspective in intelligent people's minds -- it will totally p*ss her off reminding her that she still has to wear the facade of being a normal (??) heterosexual married woman.


6 posted on 09/14/2005 8:57:04 AM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
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To: Alex Marko

I really hope they do nominate her. Because she will go down in flames! And I want to see it!


7 posted on 09/14/2005 8:57:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Alex Marko

If Rudy runs and is nominated, I will either vote 3rd party or sit election out. No way I can vote for him.


8 posted on 09/14/2005 8:57:32 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Alex Marko

Nominate Hillary! That's a sure-fire way for the Democrats to lose!


9 posted on 09/14/2005 8:58:40 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Alex Marko

I like Giuliani's chances but he will need a strong conservative running mate (can Cheney serve as VP again??).


10 posted on 09/14/2005 8:59:15 AM PDT by tellw
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To: Alex Marko

Guliani is a poor candidate tho. I think McCain would be better.


11 posted on 09/14/2005 8:59:35 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Pessimist

I want to get a look at the 7% that think she is conservative.....


That Aside, these numbers should tell you one thing.

She knows she will never be President.

Forty-seven percent (47%) say that Clinton is politically liberal, and 38% will definitely Vote agianst her.


Hillary's real ticket is right now being filled. Now that Chief Justice is taken, she will be setting her eyes on Associate Justice till CJ Roberts comes down with a bad case of Arkancide.


12 posted on 09/14/2005 9:01:34 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: Alex Marko
I Do not see movement conservatives,whether fiscal right or social right getting behind Allen.I do see Allen getting alot of support from slightly right of center political junkies...which will be enough to carry him all the way to Jan 2008....then he will have to stand on his own.Where is he willing to cut Government? Where has he fought for smaller Government? He will have to answer these.
13 posted on 09/14/2005 9:01:41 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Gipper08

Who is Mike Pence?


14 posted on 09/14/2005 9:01:43 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: tellw

Yes he can, but its not likely. Cheney is retiring. Rudy needs a strong conservative on the ticket to convince the right of the GOP.


15 posted on 09/14/2005 9:02:32 AM PDT by Alex Marko
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To: tellw

Yes, there is no Constitutional term limit on the VP.


16 posted on 09/14/2005 9:03:08 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1

Watch for good things from the RSC
By Paul M. Weyrich


Mike Pence (R-IN).


Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) is no finger-in-the-wind politician. Pence operates from a firm set of conservative principles; he does not do that which is simply expedient and momentarily advantageous politically. During my years in Washington conservatives have had their fair share of principled legislators in Congress. Not all were effective. They held the right views but lacked the leadership skills and organizing capability to have a true impact on legislation. Pence, however, appears to offer the gift of leadership, a conservative House Member, with the potential to have a substantial impact upon the legislative process and, therefore, is well worth watching.

I must confess that I feel a special kinship with Pence. He is an attorney by profession and made two unsuccessful runs for the House seat held by the politically adroit, liberal legislator Phil Sharp (D). Control of the seat eventually switched to the GOP. When GOP incumbent David MacIntosh decided to run for Governor in 2000, Pence succeeded him.

What Pence and I have in common is that we share a background as radio talk show hosts. Pence hosted a weekday program that was carried throughout Indiana.

What made Pence such a good talk show host are exactly the same qualities that make him effective as a legislator. He is a thoughtful conservative who addresses issues from principle; no conservative can accuse him of having his priorities wrong. Pence describes himself as "a Christian, a conservative and a Republican" in that order. He does not talk the loudest or make the biggest promises but his straight-from-the-shoulder common-sense thinking can carry the day based on its logic and sincerity. People like him and trust him. They realize that Pence is not just handing them a line but truly means what he says.

Pence assumed the chairmanship of the Republican Study Committee (RSC) last fall. The RSC is the organization of conservative-minded legislators in the House. It was formed in the 1970s only to have its funding cut off when the House Republicans gained the majority in 1994 and suspended funding for all legislative service organizations. Soon the House conservatives formed a Conservative Action Team (CATs) and members paid for it out of their budgets. CATs led the battles on behalf of conservative principles on a number of issues. The name was changed in 2000 to the Republican Study Committee. The organization's mission remains the same as that of its predecessor. Many good conservatives have chaired the RSC over the years but Pence is bringing a calibrated aggressiveness to his role as chairman that is very much needed.

Pence stands out as a conservative House member who has not been silent as one big-budget appropriations bill after another has passed the House. He was a critic of the Medicare Prescription Drug Law and remains so to this day because he believes that it could plunge our nation into bankruptcy. He opposed No Child Left Behind legislation because of its cost and because he believes that micro-managing education is not a responsibility of the Federal Government.

When the new session of Congress started, Pence and the RSC led the fight to have the Republican Conference adopt reforms to the budget process. Unfortunately the reforms fell to defeat but Pence and the RSC are undeterred. Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-KS) will be one of several GOP House Members who will be leading the fight on behalf of limited government. Tiahrt is the House sponsor of the "Commission on the Accountability and Review of Federal Agencies" (CARFA), legislation that would establish a commission to review the work of Federal agencies and recommend elimination of those that are unnecessary. The Senate sponsor of CARFA is Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS). Their idea is starting to gain more support as conservatives see study after study detailing the explosive growth in Federal spending. (Another bill that will be promoted is Rep. Kevin Brady's bill to establish sunsets on federal agencies.)

Pence told Human Events' John Gizzi, "After four years of the largest growth in entitlement and discretionary spending in more than a half-century, we must rediscover the principles of limited government that brought our party to power in 1980 and 1994 and put them into practice. This requires that House conservatives have their own agenda, built on the principles of freedom, including not only what conservatives must do in the 109th Congress, but also what they must undo."

In order to curtail soaring Federal spending the RSC will also promote proposals to enact a Balanced Budget Amendment and reforms to the Federal budget process, including a line-item veto. The RSC wants to uphold any presidential veto of a spending bill in excess of the budget. Rep. Chris Cox (R-CA) is working to recruit support for this from among his fellow Members of Congress. RSC also plans to call for efforts on behalf of protecting marriage, as well as the First Amendment Restoration Act, a bill sponsored by Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD) which would overturn the provision of the Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform (aka McCain-Feingold), which restricts free speech by limiting the ability of organizations to purchase advertising in the days leading up to a primary or general election.

Pence has made clear his interest in improving coordination and outreach among conservatives. For the first time ever, the House conservatives' retreat included invitations to Senate conservatives. There is hope that several conservative Senators will attend the retreat in early February. Pence wants to be more aggressive in placing conservative House Members on talk radio and television news programs. Pence knows the important role that grassroots organizations can play in passing or stopping legislation and he has made clear that he wants the RSC to work more closely with grassroots conservative groups on important issues such as reining in Federal spending.

Pence is exactly the right conservative to lead the fights that must be fought over spending and the budget; for tax cuts; for preserving marriage as a contract exclusively between a man and a woman; and on behalf of free speech. He should be able to provide the requisite mix of common sense and commitment to principle with the willingness to take bold stands and not back down. If Pence lives up to his potential as a leader-- and he has my vote of confidence -- then a few years down the road we may very well be thankful that he was leading the RSC at exactly the time when strong leadership on behalf of fiscal restraint and important issues regarding traditional American values was truly needed.


Paul M. Weyrich is Chairman and CEO of the Free Congress Foundation. http://www.insightmag.com/media/paper441/news/2005/02/07/Politics/Watch.For.Good.Things.From.The.Rsc-853787.shtml


17 posted on 09/14/2005 9:04:35 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Alex Marko

27% of FReepers will definitely vote for Hillary by pouting and staying home on election day.


18 posted on 09/14/2005 9:04:52 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: Alex Marko

Why is it surprising that 27% of our voters would vote for
The Former Twelfth Lady? It goes without saying that that same 27% would vote for Mao Tse Tung if he were on the ballot.


19 posted on 09/14/2005 9:05:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Fresh Wind

Exactly. To pass up on Rudy or McCain if opposed by Hillary is just a vote for Hillary.


20 posted on 09/14/2005 9:06:29 AM PDT by Alex Marko
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