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To: Tired_of_the_nonsense
Doesn't ID simply acknowledge the limits of science to date and say, look we don't really know how we got here, but given the complexity and profound probability of all these things coming together naturally to give rise to our environment, something bigger than us is at play?

No, sorry. CS/ID has clearly been developed to sneak religion into the classroom, where it is otherwise banned. Creationism lost at the Supreme Court level in the late 1980s, after which ID was invented. It claims to be a serious science without using any of the methods of science; in fact, every effort is made to destroy the scientific method enough that even ID can sneak in.

IDers even have to deny that their designer is the Hebrew god, which everyone can see is the case. I post alternative creation stories, but IDers can't stand them; they're the wrong religion!

CS/ID is thus based on a lie--denying the obvious religious connection while in fact the whole point of the effort is to force religion into the classroom. Its easy to document, just check out the various websites that advocate ID. You won't find the alternative creation stories I post. But you'll find lots of bible passages. Check it out!

25 posted on 09/13/2005 5:12:22 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Is this a good tagline?)
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To: Coyoteman

It doesn't matter if ID does have a religious agenda and some of it does as do some scientific studies have political agendas many of them secular and leftist. Saying that something is based wholly in religious conviction because it has a religious connection is logic begging to be put out of its misery. If this were the case any scientist that professed belief in a creator would be suspect, a class that would include greats such as Newton and Galileo. If indeed ID is baseless and evolution unassailable then it should be easy to disprove for someone who is truly as enlightened in evolutionary study as they claim to be.


32 posted on 09/13/2005 5:26:07 PM PDT by Ma3lst0rm ("God is known by nature in his works, and by doctrine in his revealed word." -Galileo)
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