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2 Convicted of Murdering Transgender Teen
AP ^ | 9/13/05 | n/a

Posted on 09/13/2005 1:46:08 PM PDT by Paloma_55

HAYWARD, Calif. — Two men who had sex with a transgender (search) teen were convicted of murdering her after they discovered she was biologically male, but a third defendant's case ended in a mistrial.

In their verdict Monday, the jury rejected defense arguments that the killing of 17-year-old Gwen Araujo amounted to no more than manslaughter (search).

"It's murder," said Gwen Smith, who maintains a Web site memorializing people believed to have been killed because they were transgender. "And a murder conviction shows that transgender lives are valuable."

Michael Magidson and Jose Merel, both 25, face mandatory sentences of 15 years-to-life in prison for second-degree murder in the killing of Araujo, who was beaten, tied up and strangled. They were cleared of hate crime charges.

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It should be considered rape to engage in sex with someone while pretending to be a member of the opposite sex.

It sickens me that the AP chose to report the victim as "She" when they know it was a guy with a terrible mental disorder that made him think he was a woman... or else, he was just a gay guy that would rather pretend to be a woman than admit he was a homo.

1 posted on 09/13/2005 1:46:37 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Paloma_55
I think if you aren't to the point of know what sex the person is that you're having sex with, that's your problem - in a long list of other problems. I'm not sympathetic at all.

As far as murdering someone because your manhood was psychologically damaged - lethal injection works for me.
3 posted on 09/13/2005 1:53:59 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Paloma_55
As another FReeper astutely observed a few days ago here, the Pederast Lobby has succeeded in normalizing transvestism, so it is now considered and officially recognized as a third gender and no one bats an eye. Transgender my ass! (An unfortunate choice of words.)
5 posted on 09/13/2005 1:57:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Paloma_55

Murder is murder period. These morons should fry.


6 posted on 09/13/2005 2:03:27 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Clemenza

Oral only, I suspect. "Johns" don't usually pay much attention (and some probably don't care...)


7 posted on 09/13/2005 2:06:55 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: Paloma_55

This is called being duped by a sick-minded pervert. What about the adult queer that dresses as a child to have sex with a 12 year old boy? Sex-related mental disorders are little different than all manner of aberrant behavior.


8 posted on 09/13/2005 2:07:35 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Conservatism: doing what is right instead of what is easy)
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To: Revolting cat!

There are some pretty interesting studies out there that suggest that transgenderism is essentially a birth defect in the brain. I'm not a scientist by any means, but from what I saw of the studies, it was fascinating.

Essentially, what they said was that somewhere along the developmental line in the womb, the body is told "you're male" (or female, as the case may be.) The brain, however, is told "you're female." It's really pretty fascinating.


9 posted on 09/13/2005 2:08:23 PM PDT by Terabitten (God grant me the strength to live a life worthy of those who have gone before me.)
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Thank God there are certain counties left in By God Texas where we they can hang these transpoofters for fraud.


10 posted on 09/13/2005 2:11:57 PM PDT by intendedconsequences (http://patrioticamerican.forumup.org/)
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To: Revolting cat!

Sorry, but I have trouble faulting someone that kills a gay pervert. Must be the Celt in me.


11 posted on 09/13/2005 2:13:52 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: Paloma_55
Magidson and Merel had sexual encounters with her, experiences that fueled suspicions about Araujo's gender…Nabors testified at both trials that Araujo was savagely attacked after her biological identity was revealed when her underwear was pulled aside.

So after they had sex with him a few times, they decided to check out his genitals because they grew suspicious.

I don’t think prison love will be too rough for them, as long as they leave the lights off.

(How ridiculous is the AP for identifying a human with a penis as a “her.”)

12 posted on 09/13/2005 2:14:01 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Clemenza
hopefully will get BF'd by the Long Beach Crips.

Any special reason you expressed a preference for the Long Beach Chapter ?

13 posted on 09/13/2005 2:15:42 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: D Rider
Sorry..murder is murder. Remarkable that you would "have trouble faulting" murder...

Disagree with the lifestyle? Fine. Repulsed by it? Fine. But to equivocate on murder is a bit much.

14 posted on 09/13/2005 2:19:05 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Paloma_55

Yeah, the reporting is just horrible. The murder victim first committed a crime against his attackers. That doesn't excuse them, but neither does it make him an innocent victim. He's a guilty victim.


15 posted on 09/13/2005 2:26:11 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (The repenting soul is the victorious soul)
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Exactly so. They obviously didn't care where they put their organs, at least at the time they were doing it. Nobody but themselves to blame if they can't tell a man from a woman.

They deserve the same penalty as any other murderers.


16 posted on 09/13/2005 2:26:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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Must be the Celt in me. or it could be that you're that you're a deranged @$$hole with no respect for human life. Must be the Christian in me.
17 posted on 09/13/2005 2:27:04 PM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
The murder victim first committed a crime against his attackers.

Can you cite the applicable statute, please?

18 posted on 09/13/2005 2:27:42 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: Paloma_55

Of course murder is murder. This person was killed and thats murder. If someone is so stupid they cant recognise a male dressed as a female or doesnt care it doesnt give them the right to kil that person.

Why does the article refer to the transvestite as She. If you have a penis you are a he no matter what you think you are, If you have your body mutilated by cutting off the sex organ you are still a He with your penis cut off.If you think you arent a HE lets see your ovary's.

This transgender crap is a bunch of hokey.


19 posted on 09/13/2005 2:28:50 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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But to equivocate on murder is a bit much.

I think the correct charge is manslaughter, (although not politically correct). I suspect it was an over-reaction to the shock of the discovery. Which I find reasonable, although excessive. I fault the resultant killing on the transgender pervert for tricking the other two.

The ancient Celts viewed homosexuality the same as treason, this is a case of deception where the comparison is aptly fitting.

20 posted on 09/13/2005 2:30:16 PM PDT by D Rider
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