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Presidential Leadership Rankings: Bush is Ranked "Average" Just Below LBJ (Liberal Historians Alert)
Wall Street Journal ^ | Setp 12,2005 | James Taranto

Posted on 09/13/2005 6:11:52 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

How's He Doing? George W. Bush is "average," but far from ordinary. BY JAMES TARANTO Monday, September 12, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT Ask someone to describe the presidency of George W. Bush, and "average" is not a word you're likely to hear. Mr. Bush's detractors treat him with a level of vituperation unseen since the days of Franklin D. Roosevelt; some even blame him for bad weather. His admirers don't go so far as to credit him when the sun shines, but their affection for him is palpable. So it may come as a surprise that in a new survey of scholars ranking the presidents, Mr. Bush finishes almost exactly in the middle of the pack. He ranks No. 19 out of 40, and he rates 3.01 on a 5-point scale, just a hair's breadth above the middlemost possible figure. But this is no gentleman's C. Mr. Bush's rating is average because it is an average, of rankings given by 85 professors of history, politics, law and economics. Most such scholarly polls have a strong liberal bias, reflecting academia's far-left tilt. But this survey--conducted by James Lindgren of Northwestern University Law School for the Federalist Society and The Wall Street Journal--aimed at ideological balance. The scholars were chosen with an eye toward balancing liberals and conservatives, and Mr. Lindgren asked each participant about his political orientation, then adjusted the average to give Democratic- and Republican-leaning scholars equal weight. (To see the rankings, click here.) Mr. Bush's rating thus reflects the same sharp partisan divide that gave him a shade under 51% of the popular vote last year.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: average; bush; lbj; leadership; ranking
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FYI, Reagan is ranked 6th all time, just below Washington, Lincoln,FDR,Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt.

Dubya is ranked 19th, a hair's breath below LBJ. But he ranks above Clinton at 23, who ranks below Bush Sr. at 21.

Jimmy Carter (who is still trying to salvage his legacy ) is in the bottom 10.

Buchanan is ranked the worst of all time.

1 posted on 09/13/2005 6:11:53 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

TO SEE THE RANKINGS, CLICK HERE :

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007243


2 posted on 09/13/2005 6:13:17 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot
Buchanan is ranked the worst of all time.

Pat finally got to be President?

I know it was James Buchanan.

3 posted on 09/13/2005 6:17:50 AM PDT by carlr
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To: SirLinksalot

Got any rankings from the time during Reagan's second term?


4 posted on 09/13/2005 6:19:44 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: carlr

<<< Pat finally got to be President? >>>

I deliberately held off writing the first name to see if this would surface and as expected, IT DID !! :)


5 posted on 09/13/2005 6:22:07 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot
Bush is better than at least 3 people, if not more on that list. He is better than LBJ (who was not very good at all), JFK, and Woodrow Wilson. Furthermore, he should be credited, like Harry Truman, for being a good steward in very adverse times.

He still is a mess on immigration and outsourcing policies, but he is better than LBJ.

6 posted on 09/13/2005 6:22:19 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: SirLinksalot

Bush will be top 10 material in years to come.


7 posted on 09/13/2005 6:22:31 AM PDT by pissant
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To: SirLinksalot

As President, Jefferson's greatest accomplishments were: the Louisiana Purchase, reducing the debt (even while borrowing money for the Louisiana Purchase) and beginning a 24-year reign (being succeeded by Madison and Monroe) of Democratic-Republican rule which, combined with John Marshall's Federalist rulings, formed much of the meaning of the American Constitution.

As President, Teddy Roosevelt's greatest accomplishments were: the transition of the U.S. to world power status, interventions into Latin America, ending the development/privatization of the west, and attacking big business (not part of the Morgan/Rockefeller consortium).

I would put Ronald Reagan behind Jefferson and ahead of Teddy Rossevelt. In the fullness of time, I would hope that we come to see the so-called Progressive Era as a prelude to the New Deal, and as a departure from the true course of liberal, democratic capitalism.

I am happy to see Woodrow Wilson slipping further and further down in these surveys of historians. Presidents that get us into unnecessary and meaningless wars are the worst, just as those who see us through the necessary and ultimately meaningful wars are the best.

Maybe in the big scheme of things, it is best for us for a president to be near great, because of the avoidance of war and the pursuit of freedom. In my book, Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan are the greatest of the "near great" presidents.


8 posted on 09/13/2005 6:24:38 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: SirLinksalot; DrDeb
Mr.PRESIDENT Bush's rating thus reflects the same sharp partisan divide that gave him a shade under 51% of the popular vote last year.

To quote Gen. Honore; "That's BS!"

9 posted on 09/13/2005 6:24:48 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem !)
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To: patriciaruth

In the wake of Iran-Contra the MSM never would have thought that Reagan would be getting the respect he's receiving today.


10 posted on 09/13/2005 6:24:54 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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...the Federalist Society and The Wall Street Journal asked an ideologically balanced group of 130 prominent professors of history, law, political science and economics to rate the presidents...

Ahead of RR -

Now I can see, though not agree with, Washington, maybe Jefferson. No excuse, logic, or sense in placing the others over RR.
And Cal Coolidge is #23 for heaven's sake! Behind Clinton!

The Federalist and WSJ need to acquire a better, and more accurate, understanding of the phrase "ideologically balanced".

11 posted on 09/13/2005 6:25:09 AM PDT by jla
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My high school U.S. history teacher was just in love with Woodrow Wilson. I used to taunt her by pointing out that Wilson kept us out of the war...until he got reelected.


12 posted on 09/13/2005 6:27:15 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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yeah if he ever gets off his ass and does something a) about illegal aliens & the open border situation, and b) kicks ass as needed in the middle east and stops putzing around.


13 posted on 09/13/2005 6:27:18 AM PDT by Vaquero (a red stater trapped in the body of a blue state.)
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Got any rankings from the time during Reagan's second term?
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Reagan is moving furthr and further UP as people realize his legacy. Just after he died last year, he was ranked number 8 if I remember correctly. Now he's number 6. The libs must be convulsing right now with this list. As people begin to realize the failure of Social Security, maybe he'll even overtake FDR.


14 posted on 09/13/2005 6:28:48 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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I'm really surprised Bubba isn't higher on the list considering how much liberals fawned over him. He's going to continue to drop as the years go by.
15 posted on 09/13/2005 6:28:56 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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Geez, you can't assess a Presidency in the middle of it.

Is there anyone else they've EVER done that to?

16 posted on 09/13/2005 6:29:01 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: mainepatsfan

The Soviet Union fell apart and the satellite countries gained their freedom after Reagan left office.

The economic miracle of the 90's happened after Reagan left office.

But he laid the foundations for both of those events.

And so Bush is laying foundations now.

And as he said 4 years ago. This is a war that "may not end on my watch."


17 posted on 09/13/2005 6:29:06 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: SirLinksalot

I would have thought that Franklin Pierce was the worst. He did virtually nothing - although he was a handsome guy.


18 posted on 09/13/2005 6:30:01 AM PDT by RexBeach (Pardon me, but is that a malaise sandwich in your pocket or are you just glad to be in a funk?)
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To: Vaquero

I agree with a). But we are kicking ass in the ME. Where ya been?


19 posted on 09/13/2005 6:30:27 AM PDT by pissant
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To: patriciaruth

Reagan was never worried about what the editorial writers at the NY Times or the Wash Post wrote about him. He was more concerned what historians long after he left office thought about him.


20 posted on 09/13/2005 6:30:36 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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