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Intelligent design [was] old news to Darwin
Chicago Tribune ^ | 13 September 2005 | Tom Hundley

Posted on 09/13/2005 4:15:07 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Evidently not as easily as a few words written three millennia ago.


441 posted on 09/13/2005 2:15:10 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: ml1954

Good Idea!!!!


442 posted on 09/13/2005 2:15:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Junior

But at LEAST you can spell testamint!


443 posted on 09/13/2005 2:16:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
I can accept that.

Heh! A sub-thread comes to an amicable conclusion without dissolving into mutual incomprehension. Is that a first for us?

444 posted on 09/13/2005 2:17:46 PM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Sounds like you consider "science" the highest accomplishment.

It is no doubt the human accomplishment of greatest magnitude, but "highest"? I wouldn't say that. Science is neither good nor evil, though; it has brought the world both great good and great misery, depending on how it used. Science is only a tool of inquiry into the natural world, nothing more.

Science, like everything else, serves God, not the other way around.

Exactly. Which is why honest scientific inquiry is important. Touting the falsehoods of creation science as scientific conclusions of equal or greater validity than evolution serves neither God or science.

445 posted on 09/13/2005 2:18:23 PM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: Elsie
The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose. [Ecc 1:5]

Literal? Metaphorical? Enquiring minds want to know!

446 posted on 09/13/2005 2:18:56 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: Junior; Elsie; bluepistolero
I'm thinking you simply need to up your meds.

That one was funny the first 12,000 times I read it on Free Republic.

For an evolutionist, your humor hasn't progressed much.

447 posted on 09/13/2005 2:18:59 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Steven Wright: "So what's the speed of dark?")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
For an evolutionist, your humor hasn't progressed much.

I have gotten much funnier looking, though.

448 posted on 09/13/2005 2:21:06 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: Elsie

449 posted on 09/13/2005 2:23:06 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: newsgatherer
Going to support evolution, call a rock great, great grandpaw

Hmmm... You may want to take the time to read/research a bit more on this subject before posting further.

450 posted on 09/13/2005 2:27:47 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
*Have you read the Koran?*

Large parts of it.

And you still think they serve the same God as Christians?

They certainly proclaim that they do. I don't recall taking any position on who they actually serve. I just said they worship the God of Abraham, that they do; and I said that strict Muslim literalists are creationists; that they are.

I am aware of the many attrocities printed in the Koran. To be honest, I haven't studied the religion in enough depth to draw any sensible conclusions about what context some of the more abhorrent-statements are written in, and I won't try to here.

Are you aware of the many apparent attrocities written in the Bible? It could be quite easy for an overzealous reader to take many of these statements in the wrong context and wreak havoc (and this has in fact happened in history). Fortunately, though, Christianity has undergone a Reformation, so this is not as common as it was in the Middle Ages. But don't ever forget some of the abhorrently violent roots of much of what is contained in Scripture - there are passages within that I certainly hope you aren't taking literally.

451 posted on 09/13/2005 2:30:19 PM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: Junior

LOL. Nonsense. You look exactly like the devilish cad of days gone by. 8~)


452 posted on 09/13/2005 2:32:12 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Steven Wright: "So what's the speed of dark?")
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To: Quark2005; bluepistolero; Elsie

There is only one "atrocity" in the Bible. It is the source of our salvation.


453 posted on 09/13/2005 2:34:17 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Steven Wright: "So what's the speed of dark?")
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To: Junior

ROFL!


454 posted on 09/13/2005 2:36:10 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Quark2005; bluepistolero; Elsie
...there are passages within that I certainly hope you aren't taking literally.

I am not a literalist. And I believe every word of the Bible to be inspired truth as ordained by God who gives eyes to see and ears to hear.

455 posted on 09/13/2005 2:37:37 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Steven Wright: "So what's the speed of dark?")
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To: Quark2005
It is no doubt the human accomplishment of greatest magnitude, but "highest"? I wouldn't say that.

I agree.

Brewing is the highest human accomplishment (followed only by bartending).

456 posted on 09/13/2005 2:40:02 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
You may want to take the time to read/research a bit more on this subject before posting further.

You are proposing the death of the Internet.

457 posted on 09/13/2005 2:41:31 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Wormwood

ROFL! :-)


458 posted on 09/13/2005 2:44:12 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Wormwood

How much "la fee verte" is too much?


459 posted on 09/13/2005 2:47:36 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Steven Wright: "So what's the speed of dark?")
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To: Elsie
since the creation of the world.

And I agree that God is responsible for the creation of the world. I never contested that perspective. I only challenged that the account of Genesis 1 can be read off like a shopping list describing literal history. Sorry, the physical evidence just doesn't lend credence to that interpretation.

Tell me, do you think Jesus literally meant it when he said

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple."

-Luke 14:26-27

Do you think Jesus literally wants you to hate your family? Do you think He literally wants you to nail two planks of wood together and carry them around for Him? Was He speaking of your version of the absolute literal "truth" when He said these things?

I think not. This is obviously a metaphor; to think otherwise would be to believe Jesus was insane. I certainly hope you love your family and don't walk around bearing a literal cross on your shoulder.

460 posted on 09/13/2005 2:47:41 PM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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