Intelligent design [was] old news to Darwin

Chicago Tribune ^ | 13 September 2005 | Tom Hundley

[Dr. Eckleburg]

In over four years here, I've never run across someone demanding I find the link to back up their excerpt. I might try it sometime. Don't tell anyone. 8~)

[Dr. Eckleburg]

No, all existence bows to God.

Take your complaints to Him.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Yes, I understood you were saying your concept was flawed. That was not my question. None of us has perfect faith.

Let's start here: do you think your God is perfect?

[VadeRetro]

In over four years here, I've never run across someone demanding I find the link to back up their excerpt. I might try it sometime. Don't tell anyone. 8~)

It is your claim that for each of the horrifying quotes from CR leading lights collected on that admittedly hostile web site there is an utterly exculpatory context. Given what those quotes say, it's an extraordinary claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[ml1954]

Let's start here: do you think your God is perfect?

You don't get it and can't stick to the point. I'm not going to go back and repeat your original question and answer it again.

[Right Wing Professor]

There have been several full articles posted. They contain admissions that Chalcedon believes in the stoning of disobedient children, and the overturning of at least parts of the US Constitution. And you can count on it there will be more posted, once I get a copy of the Institutes of Biblical Law from the library.

Of course, if you're desperate to provide context, by all means save me some work and get me a copy of Chalcedon Report 252.

[Junior]

The inference from your remark here is that you believe your God to be imperfect and flawed.

That's not what he said. He said his "concept" of God was flawed. He's human. God is perfect. No human could accurately conceive the perfect.

[xzins]

I'm a biblical Christian so it's possible that we might disagree on some things.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I suppose it's a matter of degrees.

Do you believe we should ditch "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Generally a person posts a link to the entire written work, excerpting in context.

[b_sharp]

"I have said all I want to say at this time, I look in my graddaughters eyes and I see the hand of God, followers of evolution look in the eyes of their granddaughters, the ones they haven't help get aborted, and see pond scum and a rock.

I'm coming back into this thread a bit late, and this is only about the third post I've read today.

I find this post to be one of the worst I've read in the last year, it makes me incredibly sad. That someone hates and fears both atheists and scientists so much that he questions our love for our families is beyond my understanding.

When I look into my grandson's eyes I am struck with wonder and amazement at the beauty, intelligence, intense curiosity and occasionally just a touch of mischievousness there. I don't care whether some God contributed to my grandson's existence or he is a product of 3.5 billion years of evolution, simply put, he is the centre of my universe. That anyone could doubt that, simply because I am an atheist and an evolutionist, I find more than unsettling.

[general_re]

I will consider the possibility that some are out of contest, if someone will provide a link to the original context.

Actively defending that sort of thing would expose the defenders as a bunch of

and while it's always nice when they announce themselves, revealing the goal in advance would cause most people to resist. It's the same reason the scientology

don't tell you about aliens on your soul and H-bombs dropping into volcanoes on your very first day - by the time they get to that point with you, it's because you're already 100% snookered. So you just sort of cough and change the subject when someone's crass enough to bring it up ahead of schedule, or alternately, act as though the questioner is the weirdo for even bringing it up. What else can you do, having dealt yourself such a hand to play?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Yes, I've acknowledged he said his concept is flawed.

My question, as stated in 1119, is IF one presupposes their God to be perfect and true, would it be a good thing or a bad thing for all the world to follow that perfect God?

A follow-up to this is why would anyone believe in an imperfect and untrue God?

[b_sharp]

"I'm definitely off my rocker, but I cannot fathom the twisted intellect that reads motives into others such as the ones you postulate are held by evolutionists. I've often thought it might be "projection.""

I'll send you a rocker with seatbelts. That way you won't fall off so often.

Seriously, statements like newsgatherer's are products of fear and hate.

[VadeRetro]

Generally a person posts a link to the entire written work, excerpting in context.

Where such a link to a complete work is available, yes. Otherwise, no. When I have quoted from J. William Schopf's Cradle of Life I have fat-fingered long passages in myself as needed and simply cited the book. Ditto with Feynmann's Lectures and some other works.

Your claim is uttely incredible and you need to back it up with something.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Here's an excerpt from a great article I've read about windshield wipers...

"Windshield wipers can be used as chopsticks when..."

As soon as you're finished with breakfast, find the link to this and get back to me. Thanks.

[Blzbba]

"For trust me on this, when it comes to Creation by God vs evolution we are at war."


Sadly, 'tis a war that's already been lost before the first shot has been fired, since scientific truth and fact don't rely on one's belief and acceptance of them.

Biblical Creation is a nice story for small children, but it's not science, nor is it provable, nor is it observable.

Sorry.

[Junior]

My God is perfect and true. My concept of Him, however, is deeply flawed. It's like an ant trying to grasp the essence of Einstein -- it ain't gonna happen.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

http://www.freebooks.com

[js1138]

In over four years here, I've never run across someone demanding I find the link to back up their excerpt. I might try it sometime. Don't tell anyone. 8~)

I have no need to back up the quotes I posted, but you claim they are out of context. Provide the context.

Besides, the quote you claimed to be out of context was rather harmless. You haven't mentioned the ones advocating stoning children.