Posted on 09/12/2005 5:51:41 PM PDT by StoneGiant
We have fought the war on poverty for 40 years and sad to say but poverty has won. So much for the LBJ legacy.
The article doesn't mention it, but Johnson's "Guns and Butter" program was financed, not only by raiding Social Security, but also by printing money. Along with everything else he ruined, he depreciated our currency drastically. The inflation that hit us after he left office was due to his fiscal policies.
What makes you think he didn't: "From that time on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury..."
I should think he'd be rather pleased at how well it has cemented the black vote for the Democrats.
Agree. In my opinion, he is one of the worst POTUS we've ever had.
Clinton may have been the slimiest
Carter may have been the most incompetent
But LBJ did far more damage to this country than both combined.
And they were right. :)
More than a few here will be offended or angered by that statement. But I completely agree with it.
LBJ`s Great Society programs of the 1960`s set the wheels of liberalism into motion. Let's compare the budget spending associated with human resources, AKA. social welfare spending, in 1965 and bounce them off the budget numbers from 1985 and 2005. To get a clearer picture lets include defense spending from the same years, 1965, 1985, 2005. It's not a pretty picture.
In 1965 under LBJ, the feds spent 30.9% of the budget on human resources. In 1985 under Reagan, the feds spent 49.9% of the budget on human resources. In 2005 under Bush43, the feds will spent 64% of the budget on human resources.
In 1965 under LBJ, the feds spent 42.8% of the budget on defense. In 1985 under Reagan, the feds spent 26.7% of the budget on defense. In 2005 under Bush43, the feds will spent 18.8% of the budget on defense.
As defense spending has dropped dramatically in the last 40 years, spending on social welfare programs has gone through the roof and liberalism is mainly to blame.
With FDR you got Socialism with the American value of work. Sure ol FDR will give you a make-work job but you had to work for your money. Social Security was another, but you had to WORK to get it. With LBJ you got pure Socialism and transfer of wealth for those that produce nothing. WORST PRESIDENT EVER-LBJ.
Our crackpot immigration policies are a result of the Immigration Bill of 1965--just look what that has done to our country. His Welfare State has been a total disaster.
Agree. What an utter disaster.
I would rescind that forgiveness because since he left the White House he never seems to shut up. Clinton appears to be following in Carter's footsteps in that regard. Most ex-Presidents should be seen (like at funerals for bigshots) but not heard.
Yet, Agnew and Nixon bear more disgrace in their names than Johnson who did far more damage to America.
right on target, the welfare state ruined the nuclear family in the black community, kicked out fathers, made fathers out to be a liability to the welfare payments, kept the blacks in a form of welfare/poverty/slavery, kept them housed and fed and that's about it only to exist. It's a shame and the democrats still take advantage of them at each and every election.
I came across your comments regarding Liberal Socialism and felt inclined to respond, even though it was posted over a year ago.
The author does a poor job documenting his allegation that 40 years of Liberal Socialism is responsible for the plight of the poor.
First, from 1965 to 2005, Republicans were in the White House 24 years, Democrats only 16. Hardly a forty year run without interference and serious reversals, especially during the Reagan years.
Second, Europe and the Far East were busy rebuilding after the world wide massive destruction brought about by World War II. The potential to sell the production of a quickly growing US economy throughout the world had and has never been greater. Those were times when a breadwinner could find, keep and expect to retire from a good union job with pay that was increasing faster than inflation and a complete package of benefits.
Since the gap in pay between the CEO and the entry worker was no where near as obscene as it is today, the wealth from this production was more broadly spread, not only creating a higher standard of living, but even greater market demand. After all, if you or I earn an extra $2000, we are going to buy something, increasing demand. If Bill Gates earns an extra $2000, he probably will not spend one more dime than usual. So no additional demand will grow to offset the growth in supply, production will be reduced, and workers laid off. With so much idle productive capacity, no new investment was needed and the owners of the capital had additional market was under US control, as Europe had abided by the Monroe Doctrines declaration that the US would not share its hemisphere.
Latin America had swung to more popular elected governments, which tried to increase employment and ownership of productive assets for its citizens, the workers and small farmers. They increased employment by increasing local production. And this required increased local demand. Local demand could be increased by substituting locally-made products this is called import substitution an economic policy that would reduce US access to their markets.
And retaining local control of the productive assets and national resources required government control of the flow of capital in and out of the country. This interfered with the ability for US shareholders to invest their excess income in new productive assets. With the limited need for investment in the US, increasingly more idle investment dollars were chasing a fixed or decreasing amount of productive capacity. Inflation of stock prices resulted, ironically making idle investors even richer.
In the late 1960s, early 1970s Nixon and Kissinger collaborated with the Latin American military which US advisors had been training in several countries to implement coup detats, install dictators and impose the Washington Consensus or economic policies of the International Monetary Fund, which reversed the policy of import substitution in order to allow free trade competition. It also called for the unrestricted flow of capital across borders on order to attract needed foreign investors, but leaving the host countries exposed to several risks.
So, as one eighth grade girl from the inner city said at a diversity workshop I attended with my son in October, George Bush doesnt care about me. The government has forgotten us.
How ridiculous to blame the victims for the policies of the US government. The US was
de-industrialized in the late 1970s, early 1980s in order to serve the interests of the very wealthy.
The third point has to do with the two million people in US prisons for drug related crimes. Most of these people are not criminals, but conservative drug laws have made them criminals. If drugs were legal, and sold through pharmacies, first addicts would not be in jail. They would be getting encouragement every time they went to the Pharmacy to get treatment, rather than being pushed to buy more. Drugs would be cheap, so addicts would not be tempted to commit violent crimes in order to get enough money for their next fix. Since cheap legal drugs would eliminate the disproportional profits that attract illegal drug dealers, those related crimes would decrease as well. Who knows, perhaps even a low income man might just get a job and raise his children for a better world.
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