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To: bboop

"Vienna,as we saw, was almost taken and only saved by the Christian army under the command of the King of Poland on a date that ought to be among the most famous in history -- September 11, 1683." (From Belloc's The Great Heresies/ the Heresy of Mohammed, 1938).

Is that chilling???


11 posted on 09/12/2005 5:29:25 PM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: bboop

Interesting.

A date that far back could be disputed by +/- 1 day.

The question is: Which date did the terrorists believe it was?


12 posted on 09/12/2005 5:31:29 PM PDT by bummerdude (Boycott Chevron-Texaco, buy Exxon-Mobil !)
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To: bboop
A lot of online sources have Sept. 12, not Sept. 11, for the date...as does William L. Langer's An Encyclopedia of World History.

The King of Poland saved Vienna. The Austrians later took part in two of the three partitions of Poland (1772 and 1795).

15 posted on 09/12/2005 5:36:10 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: bboop

It should indeed be a date remembered and celebrated, but even if history were better taught, PC multiculturalism would demand that this event be downplayed. The same is true of Charles Martel's victory at the Battle of Tours (or Poitiers), and of the naval battle of Lepanto.

Its sad to say, but the greatest enabling factor in Islam's rapid spread throughout the Middle East, Northern Africa, and parts of Europe was the lack of unity among the Europeans in the wake of the Western Roman Empire's collapse.. It makes one wonder what would have happened had Mohammad come along during an earlier period of Roman power.

But anyway, such proud days in Western history will become even more unfashionable as the cult of diversity grows ever stronger. Didn't the European Union decide not to officially commemorate the conversion of Clovis of the Franks because of its importance in making Europe a Christian continent.


19 posted on 09/12/2005 5:47:11 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: bboop

Pay the jihadists back on the days they hold sacred. How about cleaning all their clocks for Ramalamadingdong? Allahu fubar!


53 posted on 09/13/2005 9:45:27 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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