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To: martin_fierro
This proposed monument design is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of.

I looked at the other four finalists -- since, apparently, removed from the commission website -- and as hamfisted as this is, it was the best of the lot.

One of them looked like a smaller, tawdry version of the Stonehenge ruins. One of them looked like a bunch of luggage tags on a fence, because it was, well, a bunch of luggage tags on the damned fence.

While the five finalists were shown to the public, the many other entries were not. That's just the arts community, looking out for the public's best interests, ya know...

The irony is that the enabling legislation says that this is supposed to memorialize the heroism of the heroes of 93. Every single one of the finalists addressed only their deaths.

This one, also, has no words of praise, no recognition for their heroism. Just, "hey, a bunch of people died." Unless it actually is, by design, a memorial not to those that fought for life, but to their murderers.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

211 posted on 09/12/2005 2:53:24 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Is it news, or is it CNN?)
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To: Criminal Number 18F


I don't think this is bad design at all personally. In fact, it's brilliantly creative and subversive. I just don't want a gigantic Muslim shrine for the dead unless a majority of them would have embraced the crescent themselves knowing how they died.

This is something that Cindy Sheehan might do for her son, but it's not something we should do for those that died on Flight 93.

Who in this forum can tell me with a straight face you want your final resting place to be embraced as the star of a red crescent aligned to Mecca with a minaret tower of chimes? Go ahead and stick your neck out cause we all know the people who can make that happen.


213 posted on 09/12/2005 3:15:16 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Criminal Number 18F
I heartily agree with you. Contemporary art is bleak and the worst of it is in the public art sphere these days. The smoothest talkers get the bids. It's all in the BS, just like with used car dealers.

We need to immortalize the strengths, the unique strengths, of these people. They saved everyone in the Capitol. They saved people in towns underneath their flight. They gave their absolute ALL to save the innocent people on the plane.

They saved the people on Richard Reid's (shoebomber) plane with their example. They saved people on FUTURE flights with terrorists, who will fight back now, forever.

Their memorial should focus on that. Not on death.

They say that when you save a man, you save a world. What about an image depicting an airplane aloft with a thousand perfect tiny Capitol buildings on its wings? That's just an idea off the top of my head, and it's better than what that whole committee came up with.

Each of the human beings inside the Capitol, from janitor to Senator, may have a world of descendants since 2001, thanks to the brave people on this flight.

251 posted on 09/13/2005 1:57:16 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Criminal Number 18F
The irony is that the enabling legislation says that this is supposed to memorialize the heroism of the heroes of 93. Every single one of the finalists addressed only their deaths.

The original Vietnam Memorial was just the wall. A lot of vets thought it an insult, and referred to it as the "black gash of shame"

To fix it, a statue was commissioned and added to it, The lefty artist who designed the original wall (Maya Lin ) was upset because it changed the whole thrust of the memorial. DAMN RIGHT

What's missing and needed, instead of this crap, is a statue of some passengers in the same spirit of the vietnam memorial (possibly by the same artist), with the inscription "Let's Roll!".

Have THAT face Mecca

264 posted on 09/14/2005 2:51:01 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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