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Halted gun sales infuriate customers
The Boston Globe ^ | September 11, 2005 | Sasha Talcott

Posted on 09/11/2005 1:09:16 PM PDT by GOV'T MULE

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To: GingisK

Through several acquaintances I have been told that the quickest way to get a reponse from 911 was to call give your address and hang up the phone.


Secondly, nothing seems to get the attention of a home invader faster than the sound of racking a shell in a pump shotgun.


81 posted on 09/11/2005 7:50:52 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: Jason_b

BTTT.


82 posted on 09/11/2005 8:34:26 PM PDT by planekT (What a mess.)
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To: El Gato; Nov3

Many thanks for providing this link to the NRA. I just sent them a lengthy email expressing my outrage at this situation in NOLA with the confiscation of firearms from our fellow citizens.

I also mentioned that I did not want the NRA to be "timid" in their response to investigating this situation or challenging it with the utmost vigor.

When I hear back from them I'll post a follow up note to let you know what they said. I hope they don't go "squishy" on us.


83 posted on 09/11/2005 8:52:01 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper
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To: Wonder Warthog
Only one problem---"martial law" was not and has not been declared.

And it can't be in Louisiana, except perhaps by Federal military or the President, because there is no provision for, or any mention of, martial law in Louisiana law.

Now some are arguing that declaration of a state of emergency "gives" the authorities the power to violate the explicitly protected Constitutional rights. But has anyone asked where the power to pass such a law abridging the rights protected by the state and national constitutions might come from? Unless those same Constitutions provide for such a power, it doesn't exist. A quick perusal of the Louisiana constitution finds no such power, and several prohibitions on the actions sanctioned by these so called "emergency declarations". The only place such a provision might be hiding is in the Constitution of 1921. However the provisions of that earlier Constitution which were incorporated, were not incorporated as provisions of the current constitution, but rather as statutes, and only to the extent that they do not conflict with the current Constitution. The same is true of laws enacted under the previous Constitution, they must have not been in conflict with the 1921 constitution, and must not be in conflict with the current constitution of the state. Here are some pertinent provisions of the current constitution.

§1. Origin and Purpose of Government

Section 1. All government, of right, originates with the people, is founded on their will alone, and is instituted to protect the rights of the individual and for the good of the whole. Its only legitimate ends are to secure justice for all, preserve peace, protect the rights, and promote the happiness and general welfare of the people. The rights enumerated in this Article are inalienable by the state and shall be preserved inviolate by the state.

§2. Due Process of Law

Section 2. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, except by due process of law.

§5. Right to Privacy Section 5. Every person shall be secure in his person, property, communications, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches, seizures, or invasions of privacy. No warrant shall issue without probable cause supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, the persons or things to be seized, and the lawful purpose or reason for the search. Any person adversely affected by a search or seizure conducted in violation of this Section shall have standing to raise its illegality in the appropriate court.

§6. Freedom from Intrusion

Section 6. No person shall be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner or lawful occupant.

§11. Right to Keep and Bear Arms

Section 11. The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged, but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to prohibit the carrying of weapons concealed on the person.

84 posted on 09/11/2005 9:02:10 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: cripplecreek
I guess hunting is a legitimate reason, but it has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment is there to ensure that people can protect themselves from government. Period. I urge everybody to arm themselves to the teeth.
85 posted on 09/11/2005 9:10:26 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Nov3
Put a 12 gauge pump shotgun on someone and see how they act

Any kind of shotgun, with any action type, from a .410 double to 10 gauge autoloader will have nearly the same affect on them. Concentrates their mind it does. Assuming they have one.

86 posted on 09/11/2005 9:11:24 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: GOV'T MULE

People should try to purchase all weapons privately for cash anyway.
You don't want to leave any paper trail.


87 posted on 09/11/2005 9:12:32 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Towed_Jumper
Many thanks for providing this link to the NRA. I just sent them a lengthy email expressing my outrage at this situation in NOLA with the confiscation of firearms from our fellow citizens.

You're quite welcome. It wasn't hard to find.

I sent a somewhat "hot" note as well. Polite, but demanding.

88 posted on 09/11/2005 9:21:24 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
Concentrates their mind it does

The sound of an 870 starts people to running. At the time I almost wished it didn't!

89 posted on 09/11/2005 9:32:05 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Towed_Jumper
Many thanks for providing this link to the NRA. I just sent them a lengthy email expressing my outrage at this situation in NOLA with the confiscation of firearms from our fellow citizens.

Be sure to call at the toll free number and act sane and normal! You get real feedback.

90 posted on 09/11/2005 9:33:18 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Lancey Howard
"I guess hunting is a legitimate reason, but it has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment is there to ensure that people can protect themselves from government. Period."

Wrong. Go back and read the history of RKBA constitutional provisions in the "Colonies/states" bills of rights. The clearest expression goes "...that the people have the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of themselves and their own state, and the taking of game". The Founding Fathers who promulgated the FEDERAL Constitution's 2nd Amendment intended to protect all of these. Remeber, the Constitution uses "allowing language" (i.e. if it is mentioned, then it is limited---if it is NOT mentioned, then it is assumed as a "right of the people", and retained by them).

91 posted on 09/12/2005 3:32:53 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: GOV'T MULE
This illustrates the fallacy of thinking you will be able to buy a gun when you need one.

The time to buy a gun (or more than one) is when everything looks rosy. Because when things turn ugly

  1. The government is likely to restrict sales of guns and ammo
  2. Lots of other people will have had the same idea, and the shelves will be bare anyway
You should also maintain an ammo supply of at least 1,000 rounds per firearm
92 posted on 09/12/2005 4:24:13 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: NY Attitude

You are still responsible for your own safety, even after LEO arrives.


93 posted on 09/12/2005 4:45:23 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: Triple
You are still responsible for your own safety, even after LEO arrives.

Yes, but that's also when they often decide you are a threat to them and take away your arms. (Of course many will just ask you to put the weapon down, or away, which is reasonable at that point).

94 posted on 09/12/2005 12:08:45 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: ZULU
They are far better at peddling cheap foreign goods, made in Red China with slave labor

where the goobers will slap a chap in jail for 10 years for blabbing a "secret" that the whole world knows anyhow

95 posted on 09/12/2005 12:11:06 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: GOV'T MULE

Good to see ya posting again Gov't..


96 posted on 09/12/2005 12:19:57 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: El Gato

true


97 posted on 09/12/2005 12:26:02 PM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: GOV'T MULE

He said people who need guns for legitimate reasons, such as hunting, would not be buying now.

that's BS. if the sales are booming, there is a very good chance that they are bringing down prices in order to sell more, which would be perfect capitalism.. you make more money if you sell many at lower prices, than few at higher prices.
or, if people are buying home defense weapons, other weapons may go on sale because they are being ignored.
either way, good time to buy guns.


98 posted on 09/12/2005 12:30:52 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Nov3; El Gato

Well it's been a full day since I sent my email off to the NRA and so far I haven't received a response -not even a "form letter" email. However, I did receive the following "Legislative Alert" from the NRA-ILA and thought I'd post here for your review and consideration:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 12, 2005
www.nraila.org
Disaster Can't Destroy Gun Rights
(Fairfax, VA) -- National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre slammed New Orleans authorities Monday for seizing legal firearms from lawful residents.
"What we've seen in Louisiana - the breakdown of law and order in the aftermath of disaster - is exactly the kind of situation where the Second Amendment was intended to allow citizens to protect themselves, " LaPierre said.
"When law enforcement isn't available, Americans turn to the one right that protects all the others - the right to keep and bear arms," LaPierre said. "This attempt to repeal the Second Amendment should be condemned."
The New York Times reported last Thursday that no civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to have guns, quoting the superintendent of police that "only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons."
A Louisiana state statute allows the chief law enforcement officer to "regulate possession" of firearms during declared emergencies. "But regulate doesn't mean confiscate," said Chris W. Cox, the NRA's chief lobbyist.
"Authorities are using that statute to do what the looters and criminals could not: disarm the law-abiding citizens of New Orleans trying to protect their homes and families," Cox said.
"The NRA will not stand idly by while guns are confiscated from law-abiding people who're trying to defend themselves," he said.
"We're exploring every legal option available to protect the rights of lawful people in New Orleans," Cox said, "and we're taking steps to overturn such laws in every state where they exist."
"Local authorities in New Orleans are turning nature's assault on human life into man's assault on human rights," LaPierre said. "Four million NRA members intend to stop this unconstitutional power grab."
--nra--


99 posted on 09/12/2005 4:45:34 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper
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To: Towed_Jumper; GovernmentShrinker

THANK GOD


100 posted on 09/12/2005 4:59:15 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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