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"They wouldn't dare put up the Ten Commandments or the cross of Christ, but they're going to put up a red crescent," he said. "We're not going to stand idly by and allow this to happen."

I have a feeling that the heroes who brought down the plane would want to see this travesty burned to the ground.

1 posted on 09/10/2005 1:14:54 PM PDT by wagglebee
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61 posted on 09/10/2005 3:08:09 PM PDT by firewalk
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I rather liked the analogy at http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/ about something similar during WWII to commemorate Pearl Harbor.

We should have a mosaic or a flag over the Arizona to illustrate the rise of the US after Pearl Harbor, maybe like the rising sun in the East. And we should have rays of light coming out of the sun to illustrate the influence of the US. Put this on a flag above the Arizona.

What? It looks just like the battle flag of Japan? Well, thats just a coincident. Not intentional at all!
64 posted on 09/10/2005 3:12:06 PM PDT by Rich_E
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As another poster noted on the original thread, there is also a "Tower of Voices" in this design, which is simply too much like another way of saying minaret to be a coincidence in my view.


66 posted on 09/10/2005 3:14:00 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To be honest, I'm not sure what to think of the whole crescent deal. Maybe it is pro-terror, maybe it isn't.

But I definitely oppose this memorial on the grounds that it's architecture is ugly new age horse apples and that it doesn't memorialize the heroism, courage, and bravery fo flight 93.

I see this memorial and its themes and concepts and instead of feeling the pride, honor, bravery, and patriotism of the heroes of flight 93 I felt nothing. And that really cheeses me off. this is a war memorial for crying out loud! You can't have weepy/huggy sentimental saccharine malarkey in a war memorial! I don't like the Freedom tower but it is 500 times better than this "Crescent of Barf." It's ugly but it's got freedom in its name, it's 1776 ft high, and it's got a sword pointing into heaven. Man I see that tower and it's themes and I feel everything that stupid memorial doesn't give me.

I think that the best way is not to scream at murcdoch or rendell, dept. of the interior or any of those guys about the "crescent of islam" aspect. A lot of Americans, although anti-terror are not anti-Islam. If you make it an issue about Islam you get two reactions. One is that the families simply won't care about the crescent aspect. They'll probably see it as just a crescent and disregard it. Worse, they will not like the anti-Islam aspect and oppose us tooth and nail as racist/discriminating maniacs.
More importantly, we would be opposing the wishes of the 93 families. If we just scream and yell, the libs will spin it to make us look bad. I can see the headlines now...

"RADICAL EXTREMIST RIGHT WING RACISTS OPPOSING WISHES OF FLIGHT 93 FAMILIES!!!!!!"

The best way is to convince the families of flight 93 heroes that our guys and gals deserve a hell of alot better than this and emphasize not the crescent of islam but it's themes and architecture. This will definitely get more people on our side.


75 posted on 09/10/2005 3:42:39 PM PDT by Killborn (God bless the rescuers, God bless the Commander in Chief, and God bless America.)
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Islamofascists are laughing at us....


87 posted on 09/10/2005 5:06:30 PM PDT by Humidston (It's Bush's fault)
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There's a "service" today:

MEDIA RELEASE
Public Invited to September 11, 2005 Ceremony at the Flight 93 National Memorial
The following information is provided to better plan your visit to the Flight 93 Temporary Memorial on
Skyline Road, Stonycreek Township, Pennsylvania, the week leading up to September 11, 2005:
September 8th and 9th The Temporary Memorial is open to the public from dawn to dusk as usual.
Access may be limited during certain times of the day due to preparations for
September 11th.
September 10th The Temporary Memorial is open to the public from dawn until 6 PM.
The Memorial is CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC AFTER 6:00 PM ON THIS
DAY.
September 11th The Temporary Memorial is open from dawn to dusk. Access to the Temporary
Memorial is from Lambertsville Road ONLY; NOT FROM Buckstown Road.
Public parking is available on Skyline Road approximately 100 yards west of and
uphill from the Memorial. Handicapped accessible parking with a valid permit is
at the Temporary Memorial lot.
The public is invited to the Commemoration Ceremony – Designed to Honor –
which will be held down the hill from the Temporary Memorial on Skyline Road
at the gravel pad where other ceremonies have been held in the past. The
following information is important for the public to keep in mind:
• Continuous public shuttles will run between the public parking lot, the
temporary memorial, and the Ceremony Tent beginning at 8:00 AM.
• The Ceremony is from 9:30 AM to 10:30 AM. The public should plan to be
at the Ceremony Tent no later than 9:15 AM. NO SHUTTLES WILL RUN
DURING THE SERVICE.
• The Ceremony will include the traditional reading of the names of the
passengers and crew, tolling of the bells, music, and brief remarks.
• Small folding chairs are permitted. NO COOLERS OR BACKPACKS.
There is a designated area adjacent to the temporary memorial for any person or group that is planning
their own personal ceremonial tribute. You must call ahead to 814.443.4557.


108 posted on 09/10/2005 10:04:05 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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If this thing goes through I hope enough of the citizenry rises up against it, vandalizes it, blows it up whatever. This is ridiculous...


110 posted on 09/10/2005 10:19:08 PM PDT by Danno
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Wait what are you talking about. Hasn't you heard, the President of the United States says its a religion of PEACE.

Really do you think the President will ever ever back track on that? What would it take? An attack on London? No. A failure of any of the 1.2 BILLION Muslims ever to issue a Fatwa of death on Osama like they issued on Salmon Rushdie? No.

What would it take?
111 posted on 09/10/2005 10:53:48 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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123 posted on 09/12/2005 5:18:00 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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I saw elsewhere on FR that it also pointed towards Mecca with an error of less than 2 degrees. This cannot be allowed.


132 posted on 09/12/2005 3:33:05 PM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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The crescent is pointed towards Mecca.
133 posted on 09/12/2005 3:35:10 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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