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New Orleans Gun Confiscation is Blatantly Illegal
The Volokh Conspiracy ^ | 9/9/05 | David Kopel

Posted on 09/10/2005 5:59:21 AM PDT by Brian Mosely

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To: pageonetoo

She was battered too. That guy should be in jail. someone should ask the mayor if that fat guy will be charged.


41 posted on 09/10/2005 7:19:41 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Right Brother
JPFO.org is putting together a project for just this purpose...to educate the public on their rights!

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership

42 posted on 09/10/2005 7:21:17 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: backhoe

I saw this on Fox News and those Gestapo police must have been trained in Hitler's Germany. It may not have been the best idea for that woman to stay in her house with her own weapon though it was HER HOUSE and those NO Gestapos should be held accountable. Her house Her decision. I'm a NR life member and I said what I said and I meant what I said.


43 posted on 09/10/2005 7:22:19 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: x5452
Was martial law actually invoked?
44 posted on 09/10/2005 7:23:23 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: savedbygrace

NOT AT ALL - fully understandable (Are you saying the tone of my post is unjustified?)


45 posted on 09/10/2005 7:26:54 AM PDT by aumrl (grace= unmerited favor)
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To: aumrl

Thank you. I wanted to make sure I understood you accurately.


46 posted on 09/10/2005 7:27:40 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: dljordan

In any crisis which causes a mass-relocation of people, I can now easily see the police using the NOLA precedent to disarm the evacuees "for the general safety."

So when you do flee from the city for the hills, you will probably be guided through a checkpoint, where your guns will be confiscated.

Once the evacuees are disarmed, they will be turned into defenseless sheep, who are much easier for the govt to manage.

"Leave your car here."
"Get on the bus."
"Only one bag per person please, which fits on your lap."
"March into the stadium."


47 posted on 09/10/2005 7:28:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: 19th LA Inf

"I pray that some lawyer reading this will get going right away on taking care of Mr. P. Edwin Compass in an appropriate manner."

I join you in your prayers. No good reason the complaint can't be filed on Monday morning 9 am sharp.

This whole situation INFURIATES me. First, the imbeciles running the show down there fail to evacuate the city as their emergency plan calls for. Then, the poor excuse of a police department fails to protect life, limb and property, some "officers" turning to crime themselves, some just going AWOL. NOW they want to take the guns away from the law abiding people who have managed to hold on there on their own.


48 posted on 09/10/2005 7:33:14 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: JOE43270
I saw this on Fox News and those Gestapo police must have been trained in Hitler's Germany. It may not have been the best idea for that woman to stay in her house with her own weapon though it was HER HOUSE and those NO Gestapos should be held accountable. Her house Her decision. I'm a NR life member and I said what I said and I meant what I said.

I agree with you- don't have a problem with a single word of it.

49 posted on 09/10/2005 7:33:54 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Joe Brower

THis is the state gov't and not the feds, right!


50 posted on 09/10/2005 7:39:22 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: fooman
That guy should be in jail.

My jail wouldn't be big enough for all those I SEE are guilty of these CRIMES... but their jail is noe in the Greyhound station, and I am sure they have a few crackheads...

I wonder what the excuse is for the mayor and Gubner? The crackheads have one...

51 posted on 09/10/2005 7:44:50 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Travis McGee
I wonder if the police taking the guns are giving receipts to the owners?

No several articles have pointed out that there is no recipt. No "time" for it. Some of these pigs are going to have a nice gun collection with plenty left over to sell to the gangs! I mean who is to say they wern't stolen by someone else?

52 posted on 09/10/2005 7:48:24 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: mvpel

I have been looking for the video. I saw it in its entirety on TV. She let them in just to confirm she had plenty of food and water. She held the gun as you would hand a revolver to someone - in the palm of her hand.


53 posted on 09/10/2005 7:55:50 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: ASA Vet; zzen01; yall
zzen01:

I hope that New Orleans and LA get the HELL sued out of them!






A better solution would be for the US Attorney General to order the arrests of those issuing orders violating the civil rights of citizens.

After that arrests of Police Officers and National Guard troops who violated their oath to protect and defend the Constitution.

Trying to use the "I was just following orders" defense should be recognized and accepted as a guilty plea.
22 ASA Vet







If the US Attorney General stepped in, the states 'rights' activists would raise bloody hell about 'Fed intervention in local affairs', despite that fact that locals are violating constitutional rights.

As you say, the Nuremberg defense cannot be used by law enforcers, and this should be made evident to them by the chief law enforcement official in the USA..
-- Let's hold our breath while waiting to see if he will do his duty.
54 posted on 09/10/2005 7:57:00 AM PDT by dimquest
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To: Brian Mosely
Knock, knock, knock. "We're from the Government, we're here to remove you from your house and confiscate your gun."

Deserves a Charlton Heston response!

55 posted on 09/10/2005 7:59:31 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Brian Mosely

Apparently wealthy people and business owners are being allowed to hire armed security guards to protect their property in N.O., according to my local paper. Shades of Rosie O'Donnell.

Mrs VS


56 posted on 09/10/2005 7:59:33 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: backhoe; Joe Brower
If S&W, Glock, Baretta etc. had any marketing savvy, she would come out of this armed to the teeth. The S&W .50 might be a little too much gun for her but it sure would make a compelling photo.
57 posted on 09/10/2005 8:05:42 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: blackie; PhiKapMom

In at least one documented case, they used the Oklahoma NG which I believe is chopped to the LA NG. Blank-o might be using outside troops to try to keep her hands "clean" as if she could ever get the blood off them now. Lady Macbeth!!! If I was the Oklahoma governor, I'd be having a cow right now and I don't mean for dinner.


58 posted on 09/10/2005 8:08:16 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: dljordan
Man, they're kicking in doors on un-damaged houses and confiscating any firearms found in the homes. If there's someone there they give them 15 minutes to pack up.

And if there's not somebody there? Do they stop with the guns, or do they confiscate any valuables that they find in the home? How can anybody tell the difference between looters looting the home and cops looting the home if there aren't any witnesses?

Between the cops and the criminals, I doubt if there will be anything valuable left in any of the homes in New Orleans. Thieving bastards!

59 posted on 09/10/2005 8:10:42 AM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Nov3

My mistake - the broadband-size link I responded to shows a good sequence of events.


60 posted on 09/10/2005 8:14:24 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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