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| September 2005
| Alan H Batten
Posted on 09/10/2005 4:56:18 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Quark2005
81
posted on
09/10/2005 1:20:12 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: ShadowDancer
Right now I'm reading Twain's Letters from the Earth. I commend you to read "Letter from the Recording Angel to Abner Scofield, Coal Dealer"
It is perhaps the funniest thing Twain ever wrote.
To: longshadow
Thanks, I'll do that. His sardonic humor and wit are unsurpassed.
83
posted on
09/10/2005 1:37:37 PM PDT
by
ShadowDancer
(Stupid people make my brain sad.)
To: ShadowDancer; longshadow
84
posted on
09/10/2005 1:42:45 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
To: Doctor Stochastic
"So, it's only for the lack of the Patriot Act, that Einsten remained in America." The FBI claimed Einstein was a member, sponsor, or affiliated with thirty-four communist fronts between 1937 and 1954. It was said that he served as honorary chairman for three communist organizations. He was never an agent of a foreign power and therefore I suspect the reason he was able to remain in the US among other reasons.
Intelligence made easier to gather by the patriot act today still would not have been a factor IMHO. I'm not an expert in the matter and I'm not even sure what constitutes a 'foreign power' as defined in today's USC.
To: PatrickHenry
Thanks. I tried reading like that online once and I just couldn't do it. I like the physical book in my hands.
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posted on
09/10/2005 1:47:19 PM PDT
by
ShadowDancer
(Stupid people make my brain sad.)
To: furball4paws
Well. now I guess we know how you came to be. I left out the omens, the portents, the angelic choir, the annunciation, etc.
87
posted on
09/10/2005 2:04:14 PM PDT
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: PatrickHenry
Einstein wasn't a religious Jew. His concern was more with Jewishness than with Judaism. He wasn't actually an especially nice person either. That was his prerogative: he was brilliant, and that was his contribution.
But the teddy bear or sweetheart image that Americans formed of him in his last years wasn't the real man. Some people may have been misled by the image of the gentle shaggy genius in a sweatshirt into thinking that rejection of social norms makes one more humane. That doesn't always happen. It may simply make one more egoistic. Of course Einstein wasn't a Nazi, but that's a pretty basic requirement for humaneness.
For some scientists, though, "doing physics" can be a "religious experience." It can be their way of encountering the transcendent or divine. One can certainly quarrel with such a view and want all the canonical names and texts to have their place in one's world view, but it's not for nothing that a word like "consmology" has both physical/astronomic and metaphysical/religious connotations.
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posted on
09/10/2005 2:20:30 PM PDT
by
x
To: PatrickHenry
*[Quantum] theory yields much, but it hardly brings us close to the Old One's secrets. You fools! He was referring to The Great Old Ones!
89
posted on
09/10/2005 2:31:17 PM PDT
by
Junior
(Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
To: Junior
So who will be next to penetrate Azathoth's babbling? The Lovecraft Code?
90
posted on
09/10/2005 2:53:43 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: CarolinaGuitarman
If you wish to believe in the Resurrection, that is your right. Don't pretend you have anything but faith to back you up. Do you live within the borders of the United States of America?
Carolina in your name seems to imply that you do. How do you stomach living amongst a majority of people (In the Carolinas) that believe in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ? Are they all just completely deluded psychos? How far do you have to drive to avoid a building that houses your fellow citizens who weekly are being taught and believing that Jesus rose from the dead on the third day?
There was a time in history when people believed based on tradition, but these United States of America changed all that. We can congregate with whomever we please, because there is no coercion. We are millions of rational, productive souls who contribute more to this society than any other group. Our free Christian heritage sets us apart from all other nations of the world and in history.
You must feel a foreigner. Talk with your local Christian that you find respectable. They may attempt to persuade you to change your mind on these things. Our Lord Jesus was persuasive, but never coercive; unlike other belief systems in this world, including Scientism.
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posted on
09/10/2005 3:36:36 PM PDT
by
bondserv
(Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
To: bondserv
" Do you live within the borders of the United States of America?"
Yes. North Carolina.
"How do you stomach living amongst a majority of people (In the Carolinas) that believe in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ?"
Why do you think it would bother me?
"Are they all just completely deluded psychos?"
No, why would you think I thought that?
"How far do you have to drive to avoid a building that houses your fellow citizens who weekly are being taught and believing that Jesus rose from the dead on the third day?"
Why do you think I avoid churches? Is there any reason I SHOULD avoid them?
" There was a time in history when people believed based on tradition, but these United States of America changed all that."
It did? When? Your beliefs are not based on a tradition?
"You must feel a foreigner."
No, I feel like an American.
"Talk with your local Christian that you find respectable."
My whole family are Christian (Catholic to be exact); can I just call them instead? I already have a calling plan.
"Our Lord Jesus was persuasive, but never coercive; unlike other belief systems in this world, including Scientism."
You mean science, not *Scientism*. Science is just a way to examine the physical world, a methodology. I am sorry you feel so threatened by it.
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posted on
09/10/2005 3:58:48 PM PDT
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
To: bondserv
How do you stomach living amongst a majority of people (In the Carolinas) that believe in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ? It might be possible that he is more tolerant than your average Christian when it comes to accepting those with different views.
93
posted on
09/10/2005 5:59:04 PM PDT
by
Junior
(Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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posted on
09/10/2005 6:47:17 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
To: Right Wing Assault
I am not worried what Einstein thought about God. He was borderline a raving nutter in many other areas, so outside his very narrow specialty his opinions should be viewed in a dubious light.
Classic example of an appeal to improper authority.
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posted on
09/10/2005 6:52:04 PM PDT
by
tortoise
(All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
To: CobaltBlue
I don't think I would. The entire idea of living forever makes me feel very tired. Amen, sister! Amen!
To: PatrickHenry
I think your pictures demonstrate that men get better looking as they get older.
Until reach my age. Sigh.
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posted on
09/10/2005 7:03:58 PM PDT
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: Moonman62
From my casual readings of Einsteins non-science stuff, I get the feeling that he was way too much of an empericist to get a good hold on religion.
Which is a bit odd when you think about it, because alot of his theories themselves were not proven till we had the technology to do it.
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posted on
09/10/2005 7:04:24 PM PDT
by
djf
(Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
To: VadeRetro
I am in awe. Is it written in a 2000 year old book. Wow! That'll put a crimp in bondserve's tail.
99
posted on
09/10/2005 7:05:11 PM PDT
by
furball4paws
(One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
To: longshadow
That is also one my most favorites of Twain.
100
posted on
09/10/2005 7:06:01 PM PDT
by
furball4paws
(One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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