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To: PeaRidge
That is based on information that is completely distorted, so it will beg the answer that beforehand appears to be totally factually incorrect. No, you and non incorrectly framed the question.

No, it's you that's been obfuscating and distorting, attempting to maximize the importance of tariff revenues on goods bound for the south by conflating them with non-tariff-subject goods from the north. And now you're trying to make it sound like we were dumb for taking the word "import" at it's accepted meaning as goods originating in a foreign country.

I'm going to go "import" some lunch from the place across the street.

806 posted on 10/04/2005 1:08:19 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Heyworth
"No, it's you that's been obfuscating and distorting, attempting to maximize the importance of tariff revenues on goods bound for the south by conflating them with non-tariff-subject goods from the north."

Well, I see we have entered the realm of you having nothing else to add except criticism. From the beginning I warned Non-seq and you to be careful about misunderstanding the data. Now that you have realized how wrong you have been, you want to make it my fault. Sorry, invitation refused.

The reason you feel stupid, and deservedly so, is that you, wanting to be 'right', launched off into wild arguments based on information you misunderstood, and from misrepresentations of others that you also misunderstood.

And why did you misunderstand? You were too busy being critical rather than asking rational questions.

I have done the research I offered you. I knew if I tossed it out there, that you would find some inane criticism to attempt to defeat the conclusion. So, I attempted to walk you through it. When you came to a wrong conclusion, I pointed it out, but did not try to tell you what to do next.

You continued to blunder about making mistake after mistake, and not asking for clarification. Yes, I held back some information, and left you open to your own devices to see if you had an objective bone in your body. But, you, driven by your motivation to prove something, simply failed to ask the obvious questions.

If you had asked any of the following questions,for example, you would not be where you are now. "How do you define imports for consumption? "What were the sources of the imports? "Did the North import both overseas and domestic products? "Is the data broken down into sectional consumption numbers? "How much tariff is paid directly to the customs houses and when?

So, instead of ""it's you that's been obfuscating and distorting"" I would instead say that you are not mature in your curiosity or discourse.
812 posted on 10/04/2005 2:27:35 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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